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Loose Time in Fat City, part 8

Started by Doktor Howl, March 14, 2011, 05:16:13 PM

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Doktor Howl

Well, it's the 1970s again.  The nuclear plant in Japan - built in 1971 - is having a 3 Mile Island moment (1972), and once again, piss-poor engineering is to blame.  I mean, who puts the generators on the ground, when those generators are designed to handle the only thing that could make them necessary (A tsunami)?

I see this sort of shit every day...Not as extreme, of course, but just as stupid.  Putting a generator in a small unventilated room with no AC (Hello!  Ever heard of "high-temp shutdown, you bastards?), for example, or dismissing the actual structural components of a high-vibration piece of machinery, just because it's 2 feet thick and made of steel (I'd like to introduce you to my friend, Mister Stress Fracture). 

Engineers are a prime example of why you shouldn't confuse clever monkeys with smart monkeys.  Generally speaking, the first idea they think of is the only idea they will consider, because everyone around them - in their eyes - is incapable of thinking, period.  Most people never see this, until one day 1972 shoves it's head through your TV screen and yells "HI, HOW YA DOING?  HAVE SOME CESIUM IN YOUR RAIN!".

The Truth is that if you wait long enough, all of our mistakes will eventually show up on the doorstep at 3AM, glowing in the dark, and wondering if you have a cup of boric acid you can spare.

This doesn't mean we should stop doing things, of course.  What it means, though, is that we should think things through, and hire a couple of full-time pessimists to take a gander at the plans, to see if there's anything they can issue awful predictions on.  Then you take the worst case scenario, and you bloody well adjust your  plans to accommodate that scenario.

When I actually say that out loud at work, I am told that I am a "pessimist", which many people seem to confuse with "defeatist".  Look, I know that things CAN succeed, but I also know that you have to plan for failure.

And in the case of Japan (and many of our reactors), you have to put a bit of money into it, to update your technology.  Since most of these reactors are private, you have to mandate this via regulation.  Anyone who thinks that corporations will self-regulate is living in a Goddamn dream world, because of the very nature of corporations.  They exist to maximize profits, and retrofitting reactors is expensive.

The argument goes that the corporations that don't plan ahead will fail, to be replaced with competitors that will.  This can easily be refuted by pointing at British Petroleum or Enron...When the failure happens, you now have a big fucking mess on your hands, and the survival of the corporation that did it isn't terribly relevant anymore, is it?

I don't expect to convert any free market tards with this, of course.  It's a religion with them, and no amount of oil on their beaches or radiation in their air will convince them.  No, this is just a quick glance at another situation in which monkeys will only see what they WANT to see, rather than looking at the world the way it IS.

If the monkeys ever DID start looking around them and dealing with reality, of course, we Doktors would be out of a job.  So I guess it isn't ALL bad.

Okay for now,
Dok
Molon Lube

Dysfunctional Cunt

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You don't need to be awesome and scaring me shitless in the same piece Dok!!!

LMNO

The bit about Clever vs Smart is nicely put, Dok.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: LMNO, PhD on March 14, 2011, 05:46:25 PM
The bit about Clever vs Smart is nicely put, Dok.

Thanks.  It's something I've noticed since I was a kid.

"HEY!  WE CAN BUILD 6500 NUCLEAR WEAPONS!  LET'S DO IT!"
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.


Faust

While I am completely against the laughable free market makes best theory, there IS scope for this in the case of the energy market.
The reason there is no competition to inspire the energy markets to improve is because they won't let someone else do it better, that monopoly would come crashing down.

Faust,
~Butthurt that he can't legally run his own fission reactor at home Yet.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Faust on March 14, 2011, 06:07:08 PM
While I am completely against the laughable free market makes best theory, there IS scope for this in the case of the energy market.
The reason there is no competition to inspire the energy markets to improve is because they won't let someone else do it better, that monopoly would come crashing down.

Faust,
~Butthurt that he can't legally run his own fission reactor at home Yet.

Here, any bastard with the money and a congressman sucking their dick can set up a power plant.  Not so much with the nukes (Big Oil wants no competititon), but a burn-anything boiler plant?  Fire that puppy up!
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Juana

"I dispose of obsolete meat machines.  Not because I hate them (I do) and not because they deserve it (they do), but because they are in the way and those older ones don't meet emissions codes.  They emit too much.  You don't like them and I don't like them, so spare me the hysteria."