Nerdcore

[Bruno]

Seriously.

They're almost as bad as diabetics.

Don't forget cancer patients.  Get a few abnormal cells and they get ALL the attention.  Jerks.

You guys think I was kidding, I take it.

Kidding about what?

I agree that there are people out there who have been diagnosed (self or otherwise) with some kind of mental thingamasyndrome, and use that as an excuse not to try not to be asshats.

I was mainly just making a diabetes reference because diabetes references are cool. 

[Triple Zero]

I also don't think you can judge the genre on the quality of the production and performances.  It's still pretty early on in the genres development.

Huh, I heard nerdcore tracks as early as 12 years ago (KOMPRESSOR feat. MC Frontalot). They were probably busy long before that, too.

It's just that I think it's cool there's a few people that think "hey let's make geek inspired rap songs" first, and then others decide to call it "nerdcore" later, that's fine. But as soon as there's people that think "hey let's make NERDCORE", I think "no you're just doing someone else's shtick now", fans go "I'm really into NERDCORE", and that's what I mean when I say they didn't have to make an entire genre out of it.

Not that I would encourage anyone to try to make music that fit only within a specific genre...but I kind of thought the way you describe things is pretty much how all genres develop? A couple of people make music that is similar in some way, it catches on, and then others inspired by it start trying to do something similar.  I think that sort of thing is kind of inevitable.

I guess I am less concerned about someones motivations for making music than I am with how much do I like what they have made.

Okay you're right. I just think they should have made less of it then.

[East Coast Hustle]

[Bruno]

Yo, dawg.

I think it's time to drop the 'beetus up in here.



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[Bruno]

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[Slyph]

I know, right?

"HAY GUIZE, I KNOW I'M A SOCIALLY INEPT DICKHEAD BUT IT'S OK, I DON'T HAVE TO WORK ON THAT ANYMORE BECAUSE I SELF-DIAGNOSED MYSELF WITH ASSBURGERS! IT'S A REAL DISEASE AND EVERYTHING!"
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Ohh baby... Have I been waiting for THIS tired shit to rear it's ugly head.

People self-diagnose with actual illnesses they don't actually have all the fucking time. "I'm such a schitz" etc.

Exactly why does this make a clinical Asperger Syndrome diagnosis suspect? Why do you say it's not a real illness?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I know, right?

"HAY GUIZE, I KNOW I'M A SOCIALLY INEPT DICKHEAD BUT IT'S OK, I DON'T HAVE TO WORK ON THAT ANYMORE BECAUSE I SELF-DIAGNOSED MYSELF WITH ASSBURGERS! IT'S A REAL DISEASE AND EVERYTHING!"
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Ohh baby... Have I been waiting for THIS tired shit to rear it's ugly head.

People self-diagnose with actual illnesses they don't actually have all the fucking time. "I'm such a schitz" etc.

Exactly why does this make a clinical Asperger Syndrome diagnosis suspect? Why do you say it's not a real illness?

People who claim to have it to excuse their assdickishnessholery are super annoying. People who feel the pedantic need to defend the existence of Asperger's Syndrome on the internet fall under this category.

I don't think anyone denies that autism exists. However, Internet Asperger's Syndrome is a whole other thing.

[Triple Zero]

It's only a problem when they use it as an excuse to be a shithead. We've had several members/trolls on this board be incredibly insanely obnoxious and then claim "well I have aspergers so I can't help it".

This is of course bullshit, and thankfully, most people with actual aspergers do not use it as an excuse for being a cunt. But then, most of them simply don't mention it at all, and try to fit in like everybody else.

These two things together make that the people that loudly claim to have aspergers are usually the same ones that use it as an excuse for being a pedantic annoying dipshit.

The "self-diagnosed" thing, I have no idea where that comes from. The trolls using their aspergers as an excuse for being pissheads all claimed to have been clinically diagnosed, and observing their behaviour, I actually have not much reason to doubt them.

It's probably because calling them "self-diagnosed" is such an easy button to push and they get all pumped up with self-righteous fury and yeah it's funny to watch.

I don't think they're actually self-diagnosed. I mean, what's the use? You get a social stigma, but none of the benefits from having an official clinical diagnosis. And if someone self-diagnoses in order to use it as an excuse to be an obnoxious cunt, not realizing that on the Internet you don't actually need any excuse to be an obnoxious cunt, then they probably really do have aspergers, PDD-NOS or something autism spectrum related anyway.

[Triple Zero]

People who claim to have it to excuse their assdickishnessholery are super annoying. People who feel the pedantic need to defend the existence of Asperger's Syndrome on the internet fall under this category.

Huh? "To defend the existence of Asperger's Syndrome on the Internet"? That's like defending the existence of girls on the Internet. There's people with Aspergers, and some of them* are on the Internet. What's there to defend?

And pedantry, like it or not, really is one of the symptoms of certain types of autism. Some people can resist it, or keep it to themselves, others can't. But that doesn't make it okay, nor should it give anybody a sense of entitlement to be pedantic about everything. It does, however, give others the opportunity or a reason to have a littlebit more patience, but this is not required. Certainly not when they're being pricks.



*probably most of them

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

People who claim to have it to excuse their assdickishnessholery are super annoying. People who feel the pedantic need to defend the existence of Asperger's Syndrome on the internet fall under this category.

Huh? "To defend the existence of Asperger's Syndrome on the Internet"? That's like defending the existence of girls on the Internet. There's people with Aspergers, and some of them* are on the Internet. What's there to defend?

And pedantry, like it or not, really is one of the symptoms of certain types of autism. Some people can resist it, or keep it to themselves, others can't. But that doesn't make it okay, nor should it give anybody a sense of entitlement to be pedantic about everything. It does, however, give others the opportunity or a reason to have a littlebit more patience, but this is not required. Certainly not when they're being pricks.



*probably most of them

Yes, exactly.

[BabylonHoruv]

It's only a problem when they use it as an excuse to be a shithead. We've had several members/trolls on this board be incredibly insanely obnoxious and then claim "well I have aspergers so I can't help it".

This is of course bullshit, and thankfully, most people with actual aspergers do not use it as an excuse for being a cunt. But then, most of them simply don't mention it at all, and try to fit in like everybody else.

These two things together make that the people that loudly claim to have aspergers are usually the same ones that use it as an excuse for being a pedantic annoying dipshit.

The "self-diagnosed" thing, I have no idea where that comes from. The trolls using their aspergers as an excuse for being pissheads all claimed to have been clinically diagnosed, and observing their behaviour, I actually have not much reason to doubt them.

It's probably because calling them "self-diagnosed" is such an easy button to push and they get all pumped up with self-righteous fury and yeah it's funny to watch.

I don't think they're actually self-diagnosed. I mean, what's the use? You get a social stigma, but none of the benefits from having an official clinical diagnosis. And if someone self-diagnoses in order to use it as an excuse to be an obnoxious cunt, not realizing that on the Internet you don't actually need any excuse to be an obnoxious cunt, then they probably really do have aspergers, PDD-NOS or something autism spectrum related anyway.

I have a good friend with Autism, I don't know exactly what kind but I know that he does occasionally use it as an excuse.  He's socially perfectly capable, he just behaves in ways that are really bizarre sometimes, like if his lunch is missing one element that it is supposed to have he wont eat for three days. 

I've also interacted with autistic folks who fit more into the stereotype, and are incredibly annoying for one reason or another.  None of them have ever used it as an excuse, but their family and close friends often do.

[Slyph]

People who claim to have it to excuse their assdickishnessholery are super annoying. People who feel the pedantic need to defend the existence of Asperger's Syndrome on the internet fall under this category.

I don't think anyone denies that autism exists. However, Internet Asperger's Syndrome is a whole other thing.

I don't feel it's pedantic. I think the "lol aspergers" thing crosses over into genuine victimization sometimes. Internet's pretty rotten about the whole thing, really. Plus, there are people who genuinely deny the diagnosis, considering Asperges diagnoses to be the medicalization of individual failings.

Having said that, people actually Do self-diagnose. a Lot, and the fellow-travellers are worst of the fucking bunch out of the "Autism Pride" idiots.

When people say that bringing it up's all about looking for an excuse, attention-seeking etc, they seem to be tacitly suggesting that "Keeping it to yourself" is the right thing to do, well, is that really a good attitude to have? "Well, it makes me feel uncomfortable, so clam up about it?" When you endorse Not talking about it as the right thing to do, are you invoking privacy or shame? If it's the former, aren't you asking social discernment from people who have trouble with social discernment?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

There is a VAST difference between "talking about it" and "using it as an excuse".

[Slyph]

There is a VAST difference between "talking about it" and "using it as an excuse".

Fair enough. I'm sorry all. I spose just had a shatfit at the implication that it wasn't real. I care for people with Autism and Aspergers for a living, and some people seriously do need the help :-/!

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

My friend's kid is autistic. He's an awesome kid. That has absolutely nothing to do with assholes on the Internet using Asperger's Syndrome as an excuse for assholery.