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[Triple Zero]

Yes, I'm THAT kind of mother: "Here kid, this will entertain you--have NO idea what you're reading, but eh, it'll keep you occupied..."

Heh.  My brother used to call me to ask if he should let his daughter read stuff.  HE wouldn't read it, but he knew I would.  (This is why I've read the whole damned Twilight series.  Answer:  It'll rot her brain, but there's not much you'll have to answer questions about.)

Hm, if I had kids, I'd rather have them read Twilight than have them read nothing at all, though. Sure it might be supernatural angsty emo crap, but reading shit does wonders for one's literacy, right? Even if it's bad fantasy stories.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Yes, I'm THAT kind of mother: "Here kid, this will entertain you--have NO idea what you're reading, but eh, it'll keep you occupied..."

Heh.  My brother used to call me to ask if he should let his daughter read stuff.  HE wouldn't read it, but he knew I would.  (This is why I've read the whole damned Twilight series.  Answer:  It'll rot her brain, but there's not much you'll have to answer questions about.)

Hm, if I had kids, I'd rather have them read Twilight than have them read nothing at all, though. Sure it might be supernatural angsty emo crap, but reading shit does wonders for one's literacy, right? Even if it's bad fantasy stories.

I don't censor my kids reading at all... I figure, there's not much trouble they can get into with literature. I read Stranger in a Strange Land when I was six and it didn't damage me.

[Luna]

Yes, I'm THAT kind of mother: "Here kid, this will entertain you--have NO idea what you're reading, but eh, it'll keep you occupied..."

Heh.  My brother used to call me to ask if he should let his daughter read stuff.  HE wouldn't read it, but he knew I would.  (This is why I've read the whole damned Twilight series.  Answer:  It'll rot her brain, but there's not much you'll have to answer questions about.)

Hm, if I had kids, I'd rather have them read Twilight than have them read nothing at all, though. Sure it might be supernatural angsty emo crap, but reading shit does wonders for one's literacy, right? Even if it's bad fantasy stories.

Yep.  Of course, I gave her a set of the Narnia books when she was still in the cradle...

[Disco Pickle]

Yes, I'm THAT kind of mother: "Here kid, this will entertain you--have NO idea what you're reading, but eh, it'll keep you occupied..."

Heh.  My brother used to call me to ask if he should let his daughter read stuff.  HE wouldn't read it, but he knew I would.  (This is why I've read the whole damned Twilight series.  Answer:  It'll rot her brain, but there's not much you'll have to answer questions about.)

Hm, if I had kids, I'd rather have them read Twilight than have them read nothing at all, though. Sure it might be supernatural angsty emo crap, but reading shit does wonders for one's literacy, right? Even if it's bad fantasy stories.

Yep.  Of course, I gave her a set of the Narnia books when she was still in the cradle...

Same here.  If they can comprehend the words, even if they need a dictionary for assistance, I say let them read it. 

Except maybe Anita Blake.  She's worse than Stephanie Meyer, and I wasn't sure that was possible.

I'm going to have to start tracking down all of my favorite books in Spanish for the little border hopper. 

[Dysfunctional Cunt]

Yes, I'm THAT kind of mother: "Here kid, this will entertain you--have NO idea what you're reading, but eh, it'll keep you occupied..."

Heh.  My brother used to call me to ask if he should let his daughter read stuff.  HE wouldn't read it, but he knew I would.  (This is why I've read the whole damned Twilight series.  Answer:  It'll rot her brain, but there's not much you'll have to answer questions about.)

Hm, if I had kids, I'd rather have them read Twilight than have them read nothing at all, though. Sure it might be supernatural angsty emo crap, but reading shit does wonders for one's literacy, right? Even if it's bad fantasy stories.

Yep.  Of course, I gave her a set of the Narnia books when she was still in the cradle...

Same here.  If they can comprehend the words, even if they need a dictionary for assistance, I say let them read it. 

Except maybe Anita Blake.  She's worse than Stephanie Meyer, and I wasn't sure that was possible.

I'm going to have to start tracking down all of my favorite books in Spanish for the little border hopper. 

Anita Blake is a character not an author.....

And for escape fiction there is a lot worse out there.  I would read Laurell Hamilton long before I read Meyer.  At least she's upfront with her bullshit.  Besides they are all set in St. Louis which is a kick for me to know exactly where she is talking about.

Be that as it may, I have always said I didn't give a shit if my kds were reading playboy as long as they were reading.

My oldest got caught up in the Cirque du Freak series, now he's a big King fan.  It's fun for me, him reading King's old stuff and enjoying it.  My middle child reads anything and everything sports related.  My daughter has moved on from the little girl books, "Little House" and such to a Sherrilyn Kenyon book from her Chronicles of Nick.  Seems to be a teenage version or break in to her Dark Hunter/Were Hunter/Dream Hunter stuff...

I don't care as long as they are reading.

[Luna]

Yes, I'm THAT kind of mother: "Here kid, this will entertain you--have NO idea what you're reading, but eh, it'll keep you occupied..."

Heh.  My brother used to call me to ask if he should let his daughter read stuff.  HE wouldn't read it, but he knew I would.  (This is why I've read the whole damned Twilight series.  Answer:  It'll rot her brain, but there's not much you'll have to answer questions about.)

Hm, if I had kids, I'd rather have them read Twilight than have them read nothing at all, though. Sure it might be supernatural angsty emo crap, but reading shit does wonders for one's literacy, right? Even if it's bad fantasy stories.

Yep.  Of course, I gave her a set of the Narnia books when she was still in the cradle...

Same here.  If they can comprehend the words, even if they need a dictionary for assistance, I say let them read it. 

Except maybe Anita Blake.  She's worse than Stephanie Meyer, and I wasn't sure that was possible.

I'm going to have to start tracking down all of my favorite books in Spanish for the little border hopper. 

If they want to read, let them read.  Always.

Though the book of Dad's I got ahold of when I was a kid...  I didn't need a vivid depiction of a guy getting his junk bitten off by a chick with steel dentures.  That's stuck with me.

(No, I don't remember the title, or the author, just that Mom saw what I was reading and freaked out at Dad, and made him rearrange all the books so I could find the "approved" ones.)

[Disco Pickle]

Yes, I'm THAT kind of mother: "Here kid, this will entertain you--have NO idea what you're reading, but eh, it'll keep you occupied..."

Heh.  My brother used to call me to ask if he should let his daughter read stuff.  HE wouldn't read it, but he knew I would.  (This is why I've read the whole damned Twilight series.  Answer:  It'll rot her brain, but there's not much you'll have to answer questions about.)

Hm, if I had kids, I'd rather have them read Twilight than have them read nothing at all, though. Sure it might be supernatural angsty emo crap, but reading shit does wonders for one's literacy, right? Even if it's bad fantasy stories.

Yep.  Of course, I gave her a set of the Narnia books when she was still in the cradle...

Same here.  If they can comprehend the words, even if they need a dictionary for assistance, I say let them read it. 

Except maybe Anita Blake.  She's worse than Stephanie Meyer, and I wasn't sure that was possible.

I'm going to have to start tracking down all of my favorite books in Spanish for the little border hopper. 

Anita Blake is a character not an author.....

And for escape fiction there is a lot worse out there.  I would read Laurell Hamilton long before I read Meyer.  At least she's upfront with her bullshit.  Besides they are all set in St. Louis which is a kick for me to know exactly where she is talking about.

Be that as it may, I have always said I didn't give a shit if my kds were reading playboy as long as they were reading.

My oldest got caught up in the Cirque du Freak series, now he's a big King fan.  It's fun for me, him reading King's old stuff and enjoying it.  My middle child reads anything and everything sports related.  My daughter has moved on from the little girl books, "Little House" and such to a Sherrilyn Kenyon book from her Chronicles of Nick.  Seems to be a teenage version or break in to her Dark Hunter/Were Hunter/Dream Hunter stuff...

I don't care as long as they are reading.

that's her.  she writes herself in as the main character so much it's easy to forget who's who.  If you like her, cool.  I'm just not a fan.  Too much yiffing.

[CorbeauEtRenard]

that's her.  she writes herself in as the main character so much it's easy to forget who's who.  If you like her, cool.  I'm just not a fan.  Too much yiffing.

There's actually a shockingly small amount of yiffing for books where every third person in the setting has a hybrid were-form. There's so much sex that calling it excessive is an understatement, but I can only remember two, maybe three instances of yiffing, at least in the ones I read before I found the Dresden Files and never looked back.

But I suppose for most people any yiffing is too much.

[Jenne]

Yes, I'm THAT kind of mother: "Here kid, this will entertain you--have NO idea what you're reading, but eh, it'll keep you occupied..."

Heh.  My brother used to call me to ask if he should let his daughter read stuff.  HE wouldn't read it, but he knew I would.  (This is why I've read the whole damned Twilight series.  Answer:  It'll rot her brain, but there's not much you'll have to answer questions about.)

Hm, if I had kids, I'd rather have them read Twilight than have them read nothing at all, though. Sure it might be supernatural angsty emo crap, but reading shit does wonders for one's literacy, right? Even if it's bad fantasy stories.

I don't censor my kids reading at all... I figure, there's not much trouble they can get into with literature. I read Stranger in a Strange Land when I was six and it didn't damage me.

I'm right there with ya, Nigel.  I read basically whatever the fuck I wanted at 13 and older...and younger than that, it was just anything in the house as fair game.  So, my kids basically have no censorship on their reading.  Internet, yes, movies, yes...and even that's going by the wayside as the youngest heads into jr. high.

Damn.  My kids are old now, too.    My oldest goes to 9th grade this fall.  I'm too young to be this old!

[Cain]

I see Sean Bean and think Boromir. Fuck it.

I also don't have a TV, and I'm missing the Borgias, which, IMO, is far superior, because real life is better than fantasy. Plus, you just can't write fiction like the shit that happens in history, it's too weird.

A Song of Ice and Fire is basically The War of the Roses with dragons anyway.  Jaime and Cersei Lannister are ersatz Borgias and...well, if you know the history of the Medici involvement in loans for the war, the involvement of the Iron Bank of Braavos, with Braavos being in the in-world equivalent of Italy, takes on a potentially interesting future dimension.

[Cain]

Most amusing was a review for Slate, which seemed to assume all the sex was put into the show to appeal to a female demographic.  Yeah, because there was totally no rape and incest and general sleeping around in the series before HBO got their hands on it, hell no.

[LMNO]

So, incest, rape, and gangbangs are considered appealing to the general female demographic?


I had no idea.

[Dysfunctional Cunt]

So, incest, rape, and gangbangs are considered appealing to the general female demographic?


I had no idea.

I'm missing something somewhere.....  I didn't say that.

[LMNO]

So, incest, rape, and gangbangs are considered appealing to the general female demographic?


I had no idea.

I'm missing something somewhere.....  I didn't say that.

Most amusing was a review for Slate, which seemed to assume all the sex was put into the show to appeal to a female demographic.  Yeah, because there was totally no rape and incest and general sleeping around in the series before HBO got their hands on it, hell no.

[Cain]

So, incest, rape, and gangbangs are considered appealing to the general female demographic?


I had no idea.

It was a very incoherent article.  Even by Slate's notoriously low standards in the field of "writing shit you haven't researched".