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Hear ye, hear ye! Satire is now deadl! Long live the queen!

Started by Lies, April 29, 2011, 06:44:30 AM

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Lies

Ok, not dead, but. ILLEGAL.
That's right- The royals have been catching on that the court jester has more power than them through the magic of satire, and have ordered their heads to be chopped off lest people get the wrong idea about the royals.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/04/27/3201554.htm?section=justin

The *only* reason I'd want to watch the royal wedding, being made illegal right before the wedding, proving that the royals are grey faced reptilians.

WHENEVER SOMEONE MENTIONS THE ROYAL WEDDING, I WANT YOU TO REPEAT AFTER ME: WHO IS THE QUEEN?? 
- So the New World Order does not actually exist?
- Oh it exists, and how!
Ask the slaves whose labour built the White House;
Ask the slaves of today tied down to sweatshops and brothels to escape hunger;
Ask most women, second class citizens, in a pervasive rape culture;
Ask the non-human creatures who inhabit the planet:
whales, bears, frogs, tuna, bees, slaughtered farm animals;
Ask the natives of the Americas and Australia on whose land
you live today, on whose graves your factories, farms and neighbourhoods stand;
ask any of them this, ask them if the New World Order is true;
they'll tell you plainly: the New World Order... is you!

Juana

"I dispose of obsolete meat machines.  Not because I hate them (I do) and not because they deserve it (they do), but because they are in the way and those older ones don't meet emissions codes.  They emit too much.  You don't like them and I don't like them, so spare me the hysteria."

Freeky

Quote"It seems a bit crazy for the royal family to be trying to dictate the way they get represented in the media," he said.

This line sort of gives me hope that not everyone is stupid and ready to give over rights that should be theirs maybe.

Lies

- So the New World Order does not actually exist?
- Oh it exists, and how!
Ask the slaves whose labour built the White House;
Ask the slaves of today tied down to sweatshops and brothels to escape hunger;
Ask most women, second class citizens, in a pervasive rape culture;
Ask the non-human creatures who inhabit the planet:
whales, bears, frogs, tuna, bees, slaughtered farm animals;
Ask the natives of the Americas and Australia on whose land
you live today, on whose graves your factories, farms and neighbourhoods stand;
ask any of them this, ask them if the New World Order is true;
they'll tell you plainly: the New World Order... is you!


hooplala

If this truly surprises anyone, you clearly haven't been paying attention up until now.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Lies

Quote from: Hoopla on April 29, 2011, 02:52:59 PM
If this truly surprises anyone, you clearly haven't been paying attention up until now.
Not as surprised as just sayin, is all.
- So the New World Order does not actually exist?
- Oh it exists, and how!
Ask the slaves whose labour built the White House;
Ask the slaves of today tied down to sweatshops and brothels to escape hunger;
Ask most women, second class citizens, in a pervasive rape culture;
Ask the non-human creatures who inhabit the planet:
whales, bears, frogs, tuna, bees, slaughtered farm animals;
Ask the natives of the Americas and Australia on whose land
you live today, on whose graves your factories, farms and neighbourhoods stand;
ask any of them this, ask them if the New World Order is true;
they'll tell you plainly: the New World Order... is you!

Cain

This is nothing.

Ever heard of a super-injunction?  It prevents the media from not only printing information about someone, it also prevents them from revealing they have been prevented from revealing information about someone.

Want to know how many the Royal Family have?  You can't.  A super-injunction has allegedly been taken out to prevent you from knowing. 

These are big news in the UK right now, as they cost £50,000 a pop, and so allow rich people to have privacy (especially footballers and journalists cheating on their wives) but are well beyond what the average family can afford, allowing privacy only for the very richest.  Of which the Royal Family must be considered part of.

Shibboleet The Annihilator

Wait, what? Journalists in the UK are rich?

In America they're almost exclusively poor to lower middle class.

Cain

Depends.  Some are.  The well known, national ones tend to be.  Andrew Marr, who had a super-injunction taken out to prevent information that he had an affair and possibly fathered a child with his mistress (turned out he didn't, but thought he did) was certainly rich enough to afford it.

Shibboleet The Annihilator

Wow, even the big-name journalists here are only middle to upper-middle class unless they've gotten lucky and banked off of books or something.

In the states we have prior restraint (usually issued through the courts in the form of an court-issued injunction), but they usually fail and the injunctions end up being temporary. I'm a little shocked to find that a western nation allows for such a thing so easily. I guess things have been lurching towards that for a while now.

Lies

Quote from: Cain on April 29, 2011, 05:38:49 PM
Depends.  Some are.  The well known, national ones tend to be.  Andrew Marr, who had a super-injunction taken out to prevent information that he had an affair and possibly fathered a child with his mistress (turned out he didn't, but thought he did) was certainly rich enough to afford it.
So how do you know this then, out of curiosity?
- So the New World Order does not actually exist?
- Oh it exists, and how!
Ask the slaves whose labour built the White House;
Ask the slaves of today tied down to sweatshops and brothels to escape hunger;
Ask most women, second class citizens, in a pervasive rape culture;
Ask the non-human creatures who inhabit the planet:
whales, bears, frogs, tuna, bees, slaughtered farm animals;
Ask the natives of the Americas and Australia on whose land
you live today, on whose graves your factories, farms and neighbourhoods stand;
ask any of them this, ask them if the New World Order is true;
they'll tell you plainly: the New World Order... is you!

Cain

It might be that because we have the BBC here and most of our papers go out at a national level (the local papers here are good...but its a very difficult business and most are on the edge of ruin) and so columnists and the top level correspondents can command very high wages.  I know Richard Littlejohn, who is a shit journalist and even worse book-writer, commands a high enough wage to live in a gated compound in the USA in addition to owning property over here. 

As for the legal/freedom of speech aspect, yeah, it's not great.  I think this is an outgrowth of libel tourism and similar issues than have been brought up over the years - the UK legal system is very geared towards suppressing reporting when enough money changes hands, it seems.  Or whenever the government issues a D-notice to the press, which allows them to suppress news on defence and security grounds (and has little Parliamentary oversight).

Cain

Quote from: Lies on April 29, 2011, 06:07:47 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 29, 2011, 05:38:49 PM
Depends.  Some are.  The well known, national ones tend to be.  Andrew Marr, who had a super-injunction taken out to prevent information that he had an affair and possibly fathered a child with his mistress (turned out he didn't, but thought he did) was certainly rich enough to afford it.
So how do you know this then, out of curiosity?

He revealed it.  Said he felt ashamed about it, and with the current talk about it in the news, not disclosing this was a conflict of interest.

Shibboleet The Annihilator

Given the way that information is disseminated these days, things like prior restraint, super-injunctions, and D-notices are becoming increasingly ineffective. Suppressing information is very difficult as it is and it seems that this trend is only going to continue as more of the planet's inhabitants become more tech savvy.

It's pretty much technically impossible to effectively suppress information once it gets out.