Curious about a concept in the BIP

[The Good Reverend Roger]

All this thread was about was a similarity I noticed between what I had learned over the years in my study of shamanism

You still haven't said what and who you studied with.

How do you study shamanism?  Seriously?  I mean, besides reading crappy Carlos Castenada books?

[LMNO]

Flood your brain with serotonin, and pretend everything you experience next is real, or at least has a deeper underlying meaning.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Thornley was a shady ass character. He had some weird proclivities... from fucking a chair to once being caught doing something questionable with his eight-year-old niece. No way I'm going to identify myself with that guy, even if he said some cool shit.

Yeah, fucking chairs is immoral.

Oh err... that may have come across wrong. Thornley had serious issues including his view that all living things should be sexual. The incident with his niece is certainly an example of badwrong by a guy with serious mental problems. The incident with the chair, is funny.

"I think Kerry was an omnivore sexually, he would have fucked a rhinoceros if he had the opportunity. (Maybe he did I don't know)." - Louise Lacy*

* from "The Prankster and the Conspiracy, by Adam Gorightly

I'll give you the benefit of a doubt and assume it was a miscommunication due to the lack of inflection in text.

I'm not quite willing to grant him that much.

I corrected the potential miscommunication as soon as I saw it. If thats not enough for you, Nigel, fuck off.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Flood your brain with serotonin, and pretend everything you experience next is real, or at least has a deeper underlying meaning.

Ah.  ASTRAL PILLARZ.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Thornley was a shady ass character. He had some weird proclivities... from fucking a chair to once being caught doing something questionable with his eight-year-old niece. No way I'm going to identify myself with that guy, even if he said some cool shit.

Yeah, fucking chairs is immoral.

Oh err... that may have come across wrong. Thornley had serious issues including his view that all living things should be sexual. The incident with his niece is certainly an example of badwrong by a guy with serious mental problems. The incident with the chair, is funny.

"I think Kerry was an omnivore sexually, he would have fucked a rhinoceros if he had the opportunity. (Maybe he did I don't know)." - Louise Lacy*

* from "The Prankster and the Conspiracy, by Adam Gorightly

I'll give you the benefit of a doubt and assume it was a miscommunication due to the lack of inflection in text.

I'm not quite willing to grant him that much.

I corrected the potential miscommunication as soon as I saw it. If thats not enough for you, Nigel, fuck off.

No, you.  Your comment was completely uncalled-for in or out of context, and you are a dick for making it either way. Assfuck.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

All this thread was about was a similarity I noticed between what I had learned over the years in my study of shamanism

You still haven't said what and who you studied with.

How do you study shamanism?  Seriously?  I mean, besides reading crappy Carlos Castenada books?

I think you have your answer right here.

That, and going to the sauna and pretending it's a "sweatlodge", which is exactly why I have nothing  but contempt for 99.9% of all self-proclaimed practitioners of "shamanism". Most especially the ones who claim to "walk the Red path", who are almost always total lying posers who know exactly jack shit, and when you ask them questions about it, they evade, lie, or whine about how mean you're being to them.

[Cain]

Indigeonous religions, by and large, are welcoming of overweight, sweaty westerners with way too expensive Barnes and Noble books on metaphysics and are totally willing to teach them their closely held and usually secret beliefs and rituals for no apparent reason.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

"Shamanism" = "I READED A BOOK"
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[The Good Reverend Roger]

All this thread was about was a similarity I noticed between what I had learned over the years in my study of shamanism

You still haven't said what and who you studied with.

How do you study shamanism?  Seriously?  I mean, besides reading crappy Carlos Castenada books?

I think you have your answer right here.

That, and going to the sauna and pretending it's a "sweatlodge", which is exactly why I have nothing  but contempt for 99.9% of all self-proclaimed practitioners of "shamanism". Most especially the ones who claim to "walk the Red path", who are almost always total lying posers who know exactly jack shit, and when you ask them questions about it, they evade, lie, or whine about how mean you're being to them.

WTF is "walk the Red path"?

And this is why I am casually contemptous of Pagans when I meet them IRL.  They claim to have studied "ancient mysteries" and "sacred texts", but at most their "mysteries" are a couple of years younger than ours, and they're not even funny.  It's basically a "safe" rebellion against their parents, through religion.

Well, except for those who are "12th generation Strega", whatever the fuck THAT is.

And then people ask me, with a straight fucking face, why I hate people.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Indigeonous religious, by and large, are welcoming of overweight, sweaty westerners with way too expensive Barnes and Noble books on metaphysics and are totally willing to teach them their closely held and usually secret beliefs and rituals for no apparent reason.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

All this thread was about was a similarity I noticed between what I had learned over the years in my study of shamanism

You still haven't said what and who you studied with.

How do you study shamanism?  Seriously?  I mean, besides reading crappy Carlos Castenada books?

I think you have your answer right here.

That, and going to the sauna and pretending it's a "sweatlodge", which is exactly why I have nothing  but contempt for 99.9% of all self-proclaimed practitioners of "shamanism". Most especially the ones who claim to "walk the Red path", who are almost always total lying posers who know exactly jack shit, and when you ask them questions about it, they evade, lie, or whine about how mean you're being to them.

WTF is "walk the Red path"?

And this is why I am casually contemptous of Pagans when I meet them IRL.  They claim to have studied "ancient mysteries" and "sacred texts", but at most their "mysteries" are a couple of years younger than ours, and they're not even funny.  It's basically a "safe" rebellion against their parents, through religion.

Well, except for those who are "12th generation Strega", whatever the fuck THAT is.

And then people ask me, with a straight fucking face, why I hate people.

That's what wannabee indians call it when they pretend to practice indigenous American religions. Generally without knowing fuck-all about said religions other than the made-up bullshit in Castaneda's books, or some shit they read by Llewellyn Press.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Indigeonous religious, by and large, are welcoming of overweight, sweaty westerners with way too expensive Barnes and Noble books on metaphysics and are totally willing to teach them their closely held and usually secret beliefs and rituals for no apparent reason.

Um, there's a reason.  Cold, hard cash.  The Navajo down here do a brisk trade in teaching useless hippies whatever "secrets" come into their cold and cunning heads.  The hippies, of course, eat it right up and beg for more.

The hippies are pathetic, but not as pathetic as what some of them turn into (Grave robbers).

The Navajo, of course, are "Bob" approved, because it's morally wrong to allow a sucker to keep his money.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Or, better yet, some bullshit they heard from a guy who's 1/32nd Cherokee, charging $20 admission to a "sweat lodge" in his back yard.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

That's what wannabee indians call it when they pretend to practice indigenous American religions. Generally without knowing fuck-all about said religions other than the made-up bullshit in Castaneda's books, or some shit they read by Llewellyn Press.

Oh, THAT would make the Navajo happy.

"Hey, Injun!  Yo, red man!  You wanna teach me some of your tribal religion stuff?"

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Or, better yet, some bullshit they heard from a guy who's 1/32nd Cherokee, charging $20 admission to a "sweat lodge" in his back yard.

See my above post.

Also, we need more sweat lodge fatalities.