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Started by Cardinal Pizza Deliverance., June 06, 2011, 05:38:12 AM

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Quote from: Wyldkat on June 06, 2011, 08:12:41 AM
Quote from: Telarus on June 06, 2011, 07:41:26 AM
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on June 06, 2011, 07:28:22 AM
Having read the rules..... :lulz:

On that note:

++Post legibly in a normal writing style.  Use capital letters, lower case letters and appropriate punctuation.  Write in short paragraphs separated by blank lines and don't write in "netspeak."++

This seriously NEEDS a re-write. Or it will cause problems.

I suggest going the "it's only a guideline" route for this specific topic. Also, just inform people not to be surprised if the general forum population refuses to respond, or responds in a negative way to such "outlandish" behavior if it is repeated unnecessarily. Mention that this is a response out of the Modreation teams hands unless attacks get personal. See rule #...    :kingmeh: ..oh, that's another thing. Look into an outline structure.

How would you suggest it get re-worded?

The Spirit of the Forums are not rules, just guidelines.  I guess we didn't get that across clearly enough.  I'll see about an outline set up or something for it.

Quote from: Your Mom on June 06, 2011, 07:43:35 AM
I only see two rules.

What exactly do you mean by "follow all US law"? :?

Follow all U.S. laws.

Quote from: Your Mom on June 06, 2011, 07:45:27 AM
I am very in favor of there only being two rules, BTW, I am just thinking that second one needs VERY serious clarification.

How do you clarify follow all U.S. laws?

Maybe we should provide a few examples. "No kiddy porn, that shit is illegal AND WRONG, ASSHOLES." "No file sharing."
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I'm gonna take a "wait and see" stance on this.

You really should try poaching off of the cauldron.
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Another forum for me to lurk at can't hurt :)
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Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 06, 2011, 02:59:26 PM
I'm gonna take a "wait and see" stance on this.

You really should try poaching off of the cauldron.

Planning on it.  I don't wanna catch their virus though.
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Are you guys really this naive? You sound like children. "Follow all US law" is so vaguely worded as to be virtually useless. "Don't do illegal stuff" is actually better. "Don't do illegal stuff on the forum" is slightly better still.

If you want to word it in a way that is useful, try "Do not post content that is in violation of US law, such as child porn, illegal file sharing links, and threats of harm toward any person."

Read the rules here to see what useful wording looks like.

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

"Follow all US law". :lulz: That's like something Texas would write. I gotta show this to my lawyer friend.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Wyldkat

Quote from: Your Mom on June 06, 2011, 03:54:12 PM
Are you guys really this naive? You sound like children. "Follow all US law" is so vaguely worded as to be virtually useless. "Don't do illegal stuff" is actually better. "Don't do illegal stuff on the forum" is slightly better still.

If you want to word it in a way that is useful, try "Do not post content that is in violation of US law, such as child porn, illegal file sharing links, and threats of harm toward any person."

Read the rules here to see what useful wording looks like.



Thanks!  Any problem with me just copying that and replacing what we have?  I thought "Follow U.S. law" pretty much covered everything, but your version is better.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Wyldkat on June 06, 2011, 09:34:09 PM
Quote from: Your Mom on June 06, 2011, 03:54:12 PM
Are you guys really this naive? You sound like children. "Follow all US law" is so vaguely worded as to be virtually useless. "Don't do illegal stuff" is actually better. "Don't do illegal stuff on the forum" is slightly better still.

If you want to word it in a way that is useful, try "Do not post content that is in violation of US law, such as child porn, illegal file sharing links, and threats of harm toward any person."

Read the rules here to see what useful wording looks like.



Thanks!  Any problem with me just copying that and replacing what we have?  I thought "Follow U.S. law" pretty much covered everything, but your version is better.

Yes, feel free to lift it.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Wyldkat

Ok the rules have been cleaned up and the Spirit of the Forum has been changed to be more readable with a little clarification in the process.  Hopefully that should work, but if there are any more suggestions, please let us know.

The Good Reverend Roger

Well, having put more thought into it, I think the world needs more Pagan forums.  I mean, it's not like every cafe druid and cherohonkey with a copy of Mists of Avalon hasn't started one, or that they ALL turn out the same way.

Prediction:  No matter how good the intent of the 3 people involved, no matter what examples they have to warn them, within months they'll be strongarming people with the mod button.

Why?  Because Paganism is - and always has been - about control.  Gardiner and his friends, in Wicca's case, wrote that RIGHT INTO THE RELIGION...So that they could use it to control the rubes that followed them.  

TGRR's Dictum:  A Pagan board will go mod-happy just as soon as they have a base of believers that have to be "protected" from any test of their ideas from an outside person or group.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Wyldkat

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 06, 2011, 10:25:26 PM
Well, having put more thought into it, I think the world needs more Pagan forums.  I mean, it's not like every cafe druid and cherohonkey with a copy of Mists of Avalon hasn't started one, or that they ALL turn out the same way.

Prediction:  No matter how good the intent of the 3 people involved, no matter what examples they have to warn them, within months they'll be strongarming people with the mod button.

Why?  Because Paganism is - and always has been - about control.  Gardiner and his friends, in Wicca's case, wrote that RIGHT INTO THE RELIGION...So that they could use it to control the rubes that followed them.  

TGRR's Dictum:  A Pagan board will go mod-happy just as soon as they have a base of believers that have to be "protected" from any test of their ideas from an outside person or group.


If they can't survive a test of their ideas then they need to grow a pair and figure out where the big kid underpants drawer is....

I'm very curious if we will last and have the forum run the way we want it to.  Paganism isn't Gardner.  Not only that, but The Spiritual Crossroads is a pagan based interfaith forum.  The long term goal is to have people of all paths there sharing and learning in a respectful but real environment.

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

I'm skeptical, but willing to participate. If you really want me to.

Just be forewarned that I will be participate as myself, exactly as I am. What you see here is exactly what you get.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."