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Re: Quotes of the Moment II
« Reply #465 on: January 09, 2012, 02:16:38 am »
:lol: Nice.


Same parental unit who claims Union POW camps were worse than Nazi death camps: "The Republican party has moved so far left in your lifetime. It's not true to the roots of the GOP anymore and that's why I'm not a Republican."
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« Reply #466 on: January 09, 2012, 02:20:36 am »
:lol: Nice.


Same parental unit who claims Union POW camps were worse than Nazi death camps: "The Republican party has moved so far left in your lifetime. It's not true to the roots of the GOP anymore and that's why I'm not a Republican."

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« Reply #467 on: January 09, 2012, 02:26:32 am »
That made my brain hurt.
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« Reply #468 on: January 09, 2012, 02:31:18 am »
:lulz: You should hear him go on about RINOs and St. Ronnie. I have to work really, really hard not to laugh at him.
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« Reply #469 on: January 09, 2012, 02:34:13 am »
:lulz: You should hear him go on about RINOs and St. Ronnie. I have to work really, really hard not to laugh at him.

Tell him that Obama's going to replace Eric Holder with Oprah Winfrey.   :lulz:
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« Reply #470 on: January 09, 2012, 04:51:42 am »
I love how batshit conservatives hold up Saint Ronnie the Cut-and-Run Taxraiser as their idol.

It almost makes me think that they're performing some kind of satirical exercise.  Almost.  Especially when you remember how much today's Neocons hated him back in the day.

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« Reply #471 on: January 09, 2012, 04:57:44 am »
...I am going to ask him about that. And will let him ramble instead of trying to debate with him.


I should also ask him if he still believes in the Bilderberg conspiracy.
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« Reply #472 on: January 09, 2012, 05:38:49 am »
About which bit?  If you want references, the taxes were raised in a somewhat underhand way (the 1983 Social Security amendments) and used to plug the holes in the budget caused by the other tax cuts he made.  The cut-and-run bit was, of course, about Lebanon.  And the Neocons were warning Reagan and Bush I that the Communists were being tricksy little hobbits right up until the fall of the Berlin Wall.  It was all a sham, a feint, according to them, and Reagan was facilitating it by negotiating with Gorbachev.

Also for fun, point out how Reagan felt about WMD.  "A world free of nuclear weapons."  Even in private, he told close advisors and political allies he felt the risk of nukes outweighed the benefits, and only bilateral disarmament could make the world a safer place.

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« Reply #473 on: January 09, 2012, 06:34:50 am »
I had intended to broach it and let him ramble, actually, because he'll say some stupendously retarded shit if you don't interrupt him, but those references would be useful for keeping him on topic.

He might actually agree with Ronnie on the WMDs. I vaguely recall him saying something to the same effect.
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« Reply #474 on: January 09, 2012, 03:18:02 pm »
I have to disagree with Ronnie on that one.

Humans are savage animals that can't or won't control themselves without coercion, at least on the national level.

Before nukes:  Global, no-holds-barred wars.

After Nukes:  Regional, limited wars.

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« Reply #475 on: January 09, 2012, 03:30:54 pm »
I had intended to broach it and let him ramble, actually, because he'll say some stupendously retarded shit if you don't interrupt him, but those references would be useful for keeping him on topic.

He might actually agree with Ronnie on the WMDs. I vaguely recall him saying something to the same effect.

Ask him about Reagan pulling the Marines out of Beirut after Hezbollah blew up the Marines' barracks.
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« Reply #476 on: January 09, 2012, 03:39:56 pm »
On the other hand, large territorial wars never threatened the entire extinction of humanity. 

I'd be more inclined to risk nukes, if not for all the mechanical and human failures that keep bringing the world to the brink of absolute destruction every five years or so.  As it is, steadily reducing stockpiles to minimum deterrence levels is likely the best way to go.  There is also a large body of documentary evidence to suggest that it was large scale conventional war that both the Soviets and the Americans feared during the Cold War, and not global thermonuclear war (Richard Ned Lebow, We All Lost the Cold War, 1992)

Strangely, Henry Kissinger has of late being echoing Reagan's position.  He seems to feel the inherent risks of nuclear weapons outweigh their benefits in the existing world order, and that securing a credible international norm against proliferation is preferable to the existing status quo.  In an ironic twist, this seems to be influencing the Iranian strategic position, the Iranians are clearly seeking a nuclear capability, but not necessarily nuclear weapons, unless threatened.  Pretty much all nuclear states currently existing would be able to respond to a nuclear threat in kind fairly swiftly, even if they were to disarm right now.  The expertise wouldn't go away, and neither would the infrastructure, but the latent threat of peacetime accidents and human failure would pose far less of a risk.

So I'm kinda meh about the whole thing, except when it comes to reducing stockpiles.  We don't need enough weapons to destroy the planets 30 times over (I'm talking to you, Putin).  Three times over is more than sufficient.

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« Reply #477 on: January 09, 2012, 03:58:24 pm »
On the other hand, large territorial wars never threatened the entire extinction of humanity. 

Yes, that is an added benefit.
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« Reply #478 on: January 09, 2012, 04:44:25 pm »
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« Reply #479 on: January 09, 2012, 04:49:26 pm »
In the car headed to the store:

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Me: WAT.

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