Unlimited "you don't actually own your iPhone" thread

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I posted this on FB and an iphone fanboy said

That's the most misleading news item ever. They filed a patent for a system that can use IR lights to activate phone features. Someone speculated that it could be used to disable cameras at concerts and everyone ran with it without checking the facts.

I kind of feel like citation needed. For everything. Because the Daily Mail is not a credible source of information, and neither is an apple fanboy.

[Igor]

So here's the patent:
http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%2220110128384%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/20110128384&RS=DN/20110128384

And here's the relevant bit of it:

[0048] In some embodiments, infrared data can be received and an electronic device can modify a device operation based on the infrared data. For example, an electronic device can disable a function of the device based on received infrared data. In some embodiments, a transmitter can be located in areas where capturing pictures and videos is prohibited (e.g., a concert or a classified facility) and the transmitters can generate infrared signals with encoded data that includes commands temporarily disabling recording functions.

[Cramulus]

thanks igor! 

[Igor]

Oh, and this pic might or might not be in the image gallery associated with the patent:



Ironically, I can't see the image gallery directly because I don't have Apple Quicktime.

[LMNO]

So, the FB iPhone fanboy claimed you didn't check the facts, didn't actually check the facts?


I love the interbutts.

[AnnaMaeBollocks]

 

People will just use another phone anyway, or an actual camera. And as mentioned, bands generally don't mind people making videos or taping at shows, some of them look at it like free PR. They'd probably rather have a laz0r for the radio people who leak albums to those free download sites pre-release. 

Apple FAIL.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

So here's the patent:
http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%2220110128384%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/20110128384&RS=DN/20110128384

And here's the relevant bit of it:

[0048] In some embodiments, infrared data can be received and an electronic device can modify a device operation based on the infrared data. For example, an electronic device can disable a function of the device based on received infrared data. In some embodiments, a transmitter can be located in areas where capturing pictures and videos is prohibited (e.g., a concert or a classified facility) and the transmitters can generate infrared signals with encoded data that includes commands temporarily disabling recording functions.

Awesome, thanks!

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

People will just use another phone anyway, or an actual camera. And as mentioned, bands generally don't mind people making videos or taping at shows, some of them look at it like free PR. They'd probably rather have a laz0r for the radio people who leak albums to those free download sites pre-release. 

Apple FAIL.

One thing to keep in mind about filing patents is that they are often filed just to lock them down. Whether Apple actually develops anything that turns off certain features is another matter.

[Jasper]

Wouldn't it be simpler to just confiscate people's recording devices?

[LMNO]

As soon as you work security for a major musical event, you can answer that question all on your own.

[Jasper]

*thinks a sec*

Yeah.  Ok.


It would be simpler (and more profitable for the artists) to just have professional recordings of the concert be made, and sell it on the web.

[Cramulus]

screw that!

[Precious Moments Zalgo]

People will just use another phone anyway, or an actual camera.

I anticipate lobbying to require this feature on all smartphones and video cameras.

[LMNO]

*thinks a sec*

Yeah.  Ok.


It would be simpler (and more profitable for the artists) to just have professional recordings of the concert be made, and sell it on the web.

screw that!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Jam_Official_Bootlegs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychic_TV#Psychic_TV_live

As a business model, it's feasible.  I'd pay money for a decent recording over a shoddy cellphone one.

[Doktor Howl]

screw that!

I'd pay a couple of bucks for a recording, rather than spend the entire concert holding one arm up in the air.