Some simple facts about the future people would rather not face

[P3nT4gR4m]

for Cram's ambitious quest to make a positive change in the world we should conspire to hoax an invasion of retarded aliens that threaten to nuke the planet, thereby prompting us to work collectively as a species.
and if the people fail in this, then the retarded aliens must actually nuke a good number of them.

Ok, we're going to need a genetically modified lynx, someone with a giant blue cock and a secret base in Antarctica.

Also, we need a stupid story about emo-pirates (they're a METAPHOR, get it), it won't work without a parallel story about tormented emo-pirates.

Then, we'll just teleport a giant caterpillar in New York.

Bullshit! If we do it as a movie instead of a graphic novel we can ditch the emo-pirates 

[Triple Zero]

Yeah but that way we don't get pitched against a stillborn giant caterpillar, but an hyperintelligent omnipotent dude with a GIANT BLUE COCK.

[P3nT4gR4m]

[Triple Zero]

So that's what a genetically modified lynx looks like.

[Cain]

What I don't understand is why so many people would rather there be MORE PEOPLE than a sustainable population. What, exactly, are the benefits of having more people? Why is it treated like a tsunami, uncontrollable and unaddressable, rather than as something fundamentally easier to solve than the problems of disease, shortage, and famine?

Population growth tends to add to economic growth, which adds to military potential, which makes your dick bigger.

Also certain welfare and social programs to which we have become accustomed fail if the population starts to shrink.

Yeah, actually that's the biggest catch-22. The only system by which we could create a totally free mandatory global education system and readily available free birth control is through socialism, which is dependent on economic surplus, which is dependent on an economic system based on population growth...

Although, reliable and responsible use of tertiary education could also substitute for a lack of a growing population (in certain European countries - for example, Germany - reproduction levels are below the 2.1 "steady population" level.  Germany has experienced economic growth...but as I suggested back on page one, this is more due to cutting wages and pocketing the difference, currency manipulation and financial fraud than strong, sustainable growth.  Still, this may be the only suitable option).

Which of course brings us back to point one on page one, plus the above noted problems: we're cutting education funding, forcing a bunch of ideological nonsense on kids, and cutting foreign aid which usually goes towards basic education programs.

Note: through heavy investment in education and technology, Chile has managed a 5% economic growth rate since the 1970s (barring the copper price collapse).  This includes when Allende was in government, when Pinochet was in government and when the post-Pinochet centre-left leaders were in government.

[notathing]

Quickly, off the top of my head: The US ends the child (dependent) tax break if you have more than one kid.  If you want to have eight kids, fine.  But it would be economically painful to do so.

Stop any type of finacial positive for having more than one child, health insurance, medicaid, food stamps, free lunch, financial assistance, school choice, all of it.

You'd have to enforce this worldwide or people would just run to other countries like the Chines do now.

great, create more widespread poverty. the inability to pay for one's crotchfruit doesnt seem to deter people from forming babbies.

how about
financial rewards
for people who do not reproduce?

i'd love to be paid to not have children.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Quickly, off the top of my head: The US ends the child (dependent) tax break if you have more than one kid.  If you want to have eight kids, fine.  But it would be economically painful to do so.

Stop any type of finacial positive for having more than one child, health insurance, medicaid, food stamps, free lunch, financial assistance, school choice, all of it.

You'd have to enforce this worldwide or people would just run to other countries like the Chines do now.

great, create more widespread poverty. the inability to pay for one's crotchfruit doesnt seem to deter people from forming babbies.

how about
financial rewards
for people who do not reproduce?

i'd love to be paid to not have children.

Higher levels of education is one thing that does, statistically speaking, deter people from having babies.

So, statistically speaking, money spent on education is a better investment than money spent in any other area, except that the economy is still based on growth, and therefore economically speaking, reducing population growth is not directly advantageous.

[Cain]

I think the incentives at the moment are better for population growth than education (as it augments military and market power in addition to tax base), but as Chile seems to prove, you can definitely rely on the latter and prosper.  In fact, Chile's population growth is only 1%, on a general decline since the 1980s.

[rong]

Higher levels of education is one thing that does, statistically speaking, deter people from having babies.

NERDS DON'T GET LAID!

[PopeTom]

Higher levels of education is one thing that does, statistically speaking, deter people from having babies.

NERDS DON'T GET LAID!

Or Nerds know how to put the condom on so that it's less likely to break.

[East Coast Hustle]

Or nerds are totally into ANAL.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Higher levels of education is one thing that does, statistically speaking, deter people from having babies.

NERDS DON'T GET LAID!

Or Nerds know how to put the condom on so that it's less likely to break.

Or, educated women can see many different options available to them and are able to make the informed decision to delay having children until they are certain that is the choice they want to make, and they are unlikely to have more than one or two.

[Telarus]

Oh Snap.

[Juana]

Higher levels of education is one thing that does, statistically speaking, deter people from having babies.

NERDS DON'T GET LAID!

Or Nerds know how to put the condom on so that it's less likely to break.

Or, educated women can see many different options available to them and are able to make the informed decision to delay having children until they are certain that is the choice they want to make, and they are unlikely to have more than one or two.

Or, educated women have greater access to health care, including contraceptives (Planned Parenthood doesn't have a solid presence everywhere, you know).

[Cain]

Or, educated women have access to biological textbooks and know how to use a coat-hanger properly.