Booms and headshots in central Oslo

[Cain]

Although I'm loathe to use any source found on Godlikeproductions, this above picture purports to show all of those coordinates.  And this link http://analysis.no.net/

[Cain]

Just looked at the London locations.  They're...odd.  At first, I thought one was the Liverpool Street Station, where one of the 7/7 bombings took place.  But as I zoomed in closer, it was a restaurant near the station.  The second was Charles Dickens Primary School in Southwark.  The third was an unspecified address in Westminter, on St George's Drive.

[Jenne]

...are these proposed targets?  I'm missing something, sorry.

[Cain]

No-one knows.  Except Breivik, presumably.  There were hidden, as URLs in the footnotes of his incredibly tedious manifesto, but the URLs do not correspond to any known sites.  When decoded though, it turns out that they are coordinates...which lead to these locations.

[Jenne]

Yuck.  What a clusterfuck.

[Telarus]

No-one knows.  Except Breivik, presumably.  There were hidden, as URLs in the footnotes of his incredibly tedious manifesto, but the URLs do not correspond to any known sites.  When decoded though, it turns out that they are coordinates...which lead to these locations.

The site I saw this on mentioned that they're not sure what co-ordinate system the codes are in exactly, which means the Street Addresses are "approximate". It's weird, tho.... I wonder if the locations sync up with that list of 'Templars' in some fashion.

[Cain]

No-one knows.  Except Breivik, presumably.  There were hidden, as URLs in the footnotes of his incredibly tedious manifesto, but the URLs do not correspond to any known sites.  When decoded though, it turns out that they are coordinates...which lead to these locations.

The site I saw this on mentioned that they're not sure what co-ordinate system the codes are in exactly, which means the Street Addresses are "approximate". It's weird, tho.... I wonder if the locations sync up with that list of 'Templars' in some fashion.

Yeah, the analysis website above makes the same point.  However, assuming a "standard" coordinate system, they make little sense.

Also found out from the above site that Breivik had a Pirate Bay account: http://thepiratebay.org/user/RecycledElectrons/

[Cain]

Shit.  Shit shit shit.  I do not need to know this.

From Pamella Geller's site, Atlas Shrugged (note: Geller is now the leader of the Stop the Islamification of America, the sister organisation to the Stop the Islamification of Europe, closely allied with groups like the EDL).  Geller recieved an email from Norway, and here is an excerpt from it:

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2007/06/email-from-norw.html

"I am running an email I received from an Atlas reader in Norway. It is devastating in its matter-of-factness.

"Well, yes, the situation is worsening. Stepping up from 29 000 immigrants every year, in 2007 we will be getting a total of 35 000 immigrants from somalia, iran, iraq and afghanistan. The nations capital is already 50% muslim, and they ALL go there after entering Norway. Adding the 1.2 births per woman per year from muslim women, there will be 300 000+ muslims out of the then 480 000 inhabitants of that city.

"Orders from Libya and Iran say that Oslo will be known as Medina at the latest in 2010, although I consider this a PR-stunt nevertheless it is their plan.

"From Israel the hordes clawing at the walls of Jerusalem proclaim cheerfully that next year there will be no more Israel, and I know Israel shrugs this off as do I, and will mount a strike during the summer against all of its enemies in the middle east. This will make the muslims worldwide go into a frenzy, attacking everyone around them.

"We are stockpiling and caching weapons, ammunition and equipment. This is going to happen fast.

Geller purposefully witheld the identity of this individual at the time, for their protection from the Norwegian authorities.

We know Breivik read Geller avidly.  We know he posted links to her website, under the username "Anders Behring". 

In 2009, Geller attended a rally in Oslo.  Breivik was also present ("Norge" is Breivik).

There is enough here to merit, at the very least, an intelligence investigation into Geller and her associates, funding and activities.

In other news, there was this odd story out of Norway.  A man is shot dead by two masked men in military uniform.  Lenin McCarthy, I don't suppose you could shed any light on it?  I'm not saying it is connected, only that it seems...well, odd.  And I'm on the lookout for Norwegian related anomalies right now.

[Lenin McCarthy]

After what I've heard, that shooting was just regular mafia violence (not very usual in Norway, but it happens).

Anomalies? Well, a local mayoral candidate for the far right Democrats party, former leader of the Norwegian Defence League and active member of Stop the Islamisation of Norway was caught on tape in February saying he would love to assassinate a government member (or all of them). Crazy gun nut, but probably harmless. I greatly enjoy reading his blog posts, so I'm hoping he won't shut his blog down after this.

[Cain]

Hm, fair enough.

It sounds more and more like the whole Norwegian "counter-jihadist" subculture are terrorist cells in the making.

[Cain]

OK, this is somewhat odd.

http://northerntrumpet.com/2011/08/27/shocker-norwegian-police-conducted-drill-for-a-%E2%80%9Cpractically-identical-scenario%E2%80%9D-right-before-the-utoya-attack/

Just hours before Anders Behring Breivik launched his deadly attack at a political summer camp on Utoya island on July 22, police had conducted a drill for a "practically identical scenario", Norwegian newspaper Aftenposten reports.

Sources within the top level management of the police in Oslo have confirmed to Aftenposten that the drill finished at 15:00 that same Friday. The bomb attributed to Breivik went off only 26 minutes after the anti-terror drill finished, according to officials.

According to Aftenposten all of the officers from the anti-terror unit who took part in the action and arrest of Breivik had a full week training on a mobile terrorist attack scenario in which one or more perpetrators only goal is to shoot as many people as possible and then shoot the police when they arrive.

"Chance would have it that way", a key police source who wishes to remain anonymous, told Aftenposten.

Here is the Aftenposten piece, and here is a translation:

http://mobil.aftenposten.no/article.htm?articleId=4208952

Four days in advance, and also the same Friday the attack was carried out, the
police special unit trained on an ongoing terror campaign that was approximately
equal to the situation that hours later, met the 22 police officers within the
emergency squad on Utøya.

//Aftenposten have confirmation from key sources in the Oslo police management that
the exercise was terminated at 3PM that very Friday.

All officers from the emergency squad that participated in the government quarter
after the car bomb and later came ashore on Utøya, arresting Anders Behring Breivik,
had earlier that same day and in the days ahead participated in training on an
identical scenario.

The police barely completed the exercise, before what they had been training for,
became reality.

As far as Aftenposten has been informed, the training transcended directly into what
the policed then faced in the Tyrifjord that very day; a mobile terror attack, in
which one or more perpetrators only goal was to shoot as many people as possible and
then shoot the police when they arrived.

- It was very close to facit. Chance would have it that way, says a key police
source, who declined to quoted by name.

//Massacre

The police did not train on a scenario including as many victims as they met on Utøya.

The police special unit trains continuously. But every quarter, they have "sections"
where they train for different types of scenarios.

These are different scenarios police envisions might occur where the emergency squad
must be inserted. There may be actions indoors, in cities or outside in other
environments.

According to police, this is a scenario they train on several times a year and has
trained for, for several years, especially after specific events in other countries.

//26 minutes

Only 26 minutes after the emergency squad´s training had concluded, the car bomb
went off in the government quarter. The Emergency Squad arrived early on the scene.

At 3.30PM, the staff at the Oslo police learned about a shooting at Utøya. They put
so much trust in the the message, that the emergency squad entered the cars, already
positioned in the government quarter and cars that came from the police station at
Grønland in Oslo.

On the way they had problems contacting the North Buskerud Police District, but at
6.02PM, six minutes before they arrived, they established contact and agreed to meet
at Storøya.

Once there, seven people from the emergency squad and three police officers from
Nordre Buskerud Police District boarded a 4.9 meter long rubber dinghy. This was so
heavily loaded that it began taking in water. The police were assisted by a civilian
boat and sailed towards Utøya.

[Triple Zero]

This is the shit Rupert Sheldrake has been trying to warn us about!!

[Lenin McCarthy]

Yeah, that was weird.

Another oddity: Two days ago, a friend of a friend went back to the island to get her iPod. The time on it was frozen at 13:37. 

[Cain]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/03/uk-norway-killings-idUSLNE79204Z20111003

Police is Oslo say they want to interview Alan Lake, whom they believe is a key figure in Britain's anti-Islamist English Defence League EDL.L, to find out if he may have been an ideological source of inspiration to Breivik.

"Alan Lake is an obvious person we would like to speak to," Oslo police prosecutor Paal-Fredrik Hjort Kraby told Reuters.

He added: "At this point in the investigation there is no indication that anyone knew about his (Breivik's) plans."

The English Defence League said in an email to Reuters that Lake had "absolutely nothing to do with the EDL". Lake could not be reached for comment but has previously denied being a senior member of the EDL.

Alan Lake is, unfortunately, a liar

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jul/30/alan-lake-english-defence-league

A senior member of the English Defence League, who founded a far-right website carrying articles by bloggers closely monitored by the Norwegian gunman Anders Behring Breivik, published an online essay discussing the execution and torture of the UK's political and religious leaders.

On 23 May 2010, Alan Lake posted on his 4 Freedoms website an article outlining his belief that "in 20 or 30 years the UK will start to fragment into Islamic enclaves". He went on: "It's time we decide... who we will force in the Islamic enclaves (and who we will execute if they sneak out.) By forcing these liberal twits into those enclaves, we will be sending them to their death at worst, and at best they and their families will be subjected to all the depredations, persecution and abuse that non-Muslims worldwide currently 'enjoy' in countries like Pakistan... It will be great to see them executed or tortured to death."

Lake urged visitors to the site to contribute the names of people who should be sent to the Islamic enclaves and made three of his own suggestions. He suggested that the Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, should be a candidate on the grounds that he "approves of the creation and use of sharia courts". David Cameron, he explained, should be included in the discussion "to help refine our criteria about who deserves to die at the hands of the Muslim overlords". He also included Nick Clegg on the grounds that he is "such an angelic and pure person that he upholds various 'human rights' issues more important than plebeian matters of public safety".

Soon after his posting, Lake removed the references to execution and torture. "I took it back after one day," he said. "I said, 'This doesn't help.' I'm not perfect, I will make mistakes. But the fundamental point of that piece is correct. I am holding people responsible for the consequences of their actions."

In interviews outlining the EDL's philosophy, Lake describes himself as its"events director". He has admitted to loaning the EDL equipment, but denied claims he bankrolls the organisation.

Users of the 4 Freedoms site have posted articles by a far-right blogger known as Fjordman who was extensively cited by Breivik in the 1,500-page manifesto he issued shortly after the mass killings. On a separate far right website, Gates of Vienna, Breivik is believed to have posted a tribute to Fjordman , under the internet pseudonym "year2183".

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1238213/This-England-On-trail-English-Defence-League.html

Alarmingly, the EDL is becoming more sophisticated and those orchestrating its activities at the top are far more astute than its foot soldiers. I meet two of the EDL's key figures in a Covent Garden pub - a respectable looking man called Alan Lake, and a man who goes by the moniker 'Kinana'.

Lake is a 45-year-old computer expert from Highgate, north London who runs a far-right website called Four Freedoms. This summer he contacted the EDL and offered to both fund and advise the movement.

'Our leaders in this country no longer represent us,' he says.

Lake's aim is to unite the 'thinkers' and those prepared to take to the streets. He describes this marriage as 'the perfect storm coming together'. Lake says that street violence is not desirable but sometimes inevitable.

'There are issues when you are dealing with football thugs but what can we do?'

He criticises fascist organisations, however, and says he will only support the EDL so long as it doesn't associate with the BNP. When I ask about extremists hijacking the movement, he says: 'There are different groups infiltrating and trying to cause rifts by one means or another, or trying to waylay the organisation to different agendas. The intention is to exclude those groups and individuals.'

These men are outwardly intelligent and their political nous combined with the brawn of the casuals makes them a quasi-political force.

Britain's neo-Nazis realise this. For Kevin Watmough, leader of the neo-Nazi British People's Party and a former member of the National Front, the rise of the EDL is reminiscent of the Seventies.

'The protests remind me of the National Front marches, but I wouldn't march with the EDL because they have blacks as supporters,' he told me.

But other neo-Nazis have joined EDL demos. These include members of Combat 18 and the British Freedom Fighters, who later posted videos of themselves on the internet.

I'll be surprised if Lake was intimately involved in Breivik's attack, but leaning hard on him may lead to him coughing up some names of people more likely to have been.

[Cain]

Anders Behring Breivik has been delcared insane by psychiatrists

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-15936276

Psychiatrists assessing self-confessed Norwegian mass killer Anders Behring Breivik have concluded that he is suffering from paranoid schizophrenia.

They believe he was in a psychotic state during the twin attacks on 22 July that led to the deaths of 77 people and injured 151.

He was also insane during the 13 interviews the two psychiatrists held with them, a news conference heard.

Breivik admits carrying out the attacks but has pleaded not guilty to charges.

He has previously said the attacks were atrocious but "necessary".

The two psychiatrists, in their report, concluded that he lived in his "own delusional universe where all his thoughts and acts are guided by his delusions".

I find this assessment suspect as hell.

I have my suspicions that this conclusion was obtained because it was decided that sending Breivik to prison would be less than ideal, given the severity of his crimes, and that indefinite incarceration was the preferable option.

Paranoid schizophrenia only fits if you consider Breivik's beliefs about the world to be delusional - which they are, but no more so than most political ideologies and certainly not to the level that psychology normally recognizes as a delusion, and his cold, unemotional response to what he did.  He doesn't seem to have hallucinations, that we have been made aware of, show significant verbal or linguistic confusion, show grossly disorganized behaviour (just the opposite, in fact) or show significant interpersonal or occupation related dysfunction.

As such, the treatments wont work, Breivik wont recant, the Norwegian authorities will keep him locked up forever.