8 Reasons Young Americans Don't Fight Back

[iarmit]

I guess your other option is to learn to play their game and realize while you will never beat them you can at least take care of you and yours.

i think it's kinda of neat that a number of people here are into ecological studies,
the reason i bring this up is: PopeTom, i believe i may have found my own way
to take their game and turn it on its ear. i'm working towards my undergrad in
Environmental Science and Management and Environmental and Natural Resource
Economics (with a minor in Soil Sciences because, fuckit, it's not like i need a social life).

and while i would be all for the youth of today (and i think i still fall into this category for
awhile longer) taking to the streets, i also know that i'm not by nature a violent person
and the burning and shit would put me off, i've found it better (for me, at least) to work
within the system (with their rules even, just to spite them) to exert influence and change.

[Kai]

I guess your other option is to learn to play their game and realize while you will never beat them you can at least take care of you and yours.

i think it's kinda of neat that a number of people here are into ecological studies,
the reason i bring this up is: PopeTom, i believe i may have found my own way
to take their game and turn it on its ear. i'm working towards my undergrad in
Environmental Science and Management and Environmental and Natural Resource
Economics (with a minor in Soil Sciences because, fuckit, it's not like i need a social life).

and while i would be all for the youth of today (and i think i still fall into this category for
awhile longer) taking to the streets, i also know that i'm not by nature a violent person
and the burning and shit would put me off, i've found it better (for me, at least) to work
within the system (with their rules even, just to spite them) to exert influence and change.

Enjoy your idealism while it lasts.

[Gordon C]

I just love being treated like a child who needs to be monitored 24/7 at work. My I ask permission to take a poop or do I need to run it by you first?

[PopeTom]

I just love being treated like a child who needs to be monitored 24/7 at work. My I ask permission to take a poop or do I need to run it by you first?

Do what i do and just poop in the trash bucket you share with your cube mate(s).  My productivity went up by 15%!

[Cain]

I just love being treated like a child who needs to be monitored 24/7 at work. My I ask permission to take a poop or do I need to run it by you first?

Depends.  Is your hall pass poop-form in order?

[BabylonHoruv]

I guess your other option is to learn to play their game and realize while you will never beat them you can at least take care of you and yours.

i think it's kinda of neat that a number of people here are into ecological studies,
the reason i bring this up is: PopeTom, i believe i may have found my own way
to take their game and turn it on its ear. i'm working towards my undergrad in
Environmental Science and Management and Environmental and Natural Resource
Economics (with a minor in Soil Sciences because, fuckit, it's not like i need a social life).

and while i would be all for the youth of today (and i think i still fall into this category for
awhile longer) taking to the streets, i also know that i'm not by nature a violent person
and the burning and shit would put me off, i've found it better (for me, at least) to work
within the system (with their rules even, just to spite them) to exert influence and change.

Enjoy your idealism while it lasts.

And enjoy the paycheck and benefits that come with working within the system after it fades.

[Gordon C]

I just love being treated like a child who needs to be monitored 24/7 at work. My I ask permission to take a poop or do I need to run it by you first?

Do what i do and just poop in the trash bucket you share with your cube mate(s).  My productivity went up by 15%!

Well done.

[iarmit]

Enjoy your idealism while it lasts.

And enjoy the paycheck and benefits that come with working within the system after it fades.

your fatalistic cynicism and lack of vision is noted, thanks.

my "idealism" has already affected positive change within my (very limited)
sphere of influence, and it shall far outlast the opposition, because
while i might not necessarily be too keen on setting fire to the streets i have
no qualms about setting fire to the minds and imaginations of those around me.
and yes, i have found myself the only one in the room still arguing for a purpose.
this does not worry me

and my "paycheck" is not in government issued currency, i've gone long enough
without it to know that i can, and i have a support system of family and
friends to shore me up while i carry out my little farce. the "benefits" i receive
are not dependent upon the current system. that is kind of the fucking point.
by working to change the system, i am not worried that i will be left out to dry,
for either it will change for the better or i have not yet finished trying to change it.

but again, i thank you for your support

[Kai]

Enjoy your idealism while it lasts.

And enjoy the paycheck and benefits that come with working within the system after it fades.

your fatalistic cynicism and lack of vision is noted, thanks.

my "idealism" has already affected positive change within my (very limited)
sphere of influence, and it shall far outlast the opposition, because
while i might not necessarily be too keen on setting fire to the streets i have
no qualms about setting fire to the minds and imaginations of those around me.
and yes, i have found myself the only one in the room still arguing for a purpose.
this does not worry me

and my "paycheck" is not in government issued currency, i've gone long enough
without it to know that i can, and i have a support system of family and
friends to shore me up while i carry out my little farce. the "benefits" i receive
are not dependent upon the current system. that is kind of the fucking point.
by working to change the system, i am not worried that i will be left out to dry,
for either it will change for the better or i have not yet finished trying to change it.

but again, i thank you for your support

Not /your/ government issued currency, anyway. Unless you are living in the wilderness with farms and solar powered electricity for your computers, someone is using money to supply you with Internet. However, if you are living on a farm in the wilderness with a solar powered hacked internet hook up, let me congratulate you for being completely awesome.

[iarmit]

Not /your/ government issued currency, anyway. Unless you are living in the wilderness with farms and solar powered electricity for your computers, someone is using money to supply you with Internet. However, if you are living on a farm in the wilderness with a solar powered hacked internet hook up, let me congratulate you for being completely awesome.

ha, oh no, i am nowhere near awesome. and it wasn't to say that i don't
have someone supporting me, so that's why i said

and my "paycheck" is not in government issued currency, i've gone long enough
without it to know that i can, and i have a support system of family and
friends to shore me up while i carry out my little farce.

the point is not to live in the woods on solar power and hacked ISP,
the point is to use the existing framework to your advantage and
twist it to the point that it fits the image you want it to take.
granted, my ideas are not everyone's, nor should they be. i just suppose that
i was a little butt-hurt in that finding a commonality with others here and
embracing it that the reaction was "foolish child, don't you know that the
system is going to beat you down, give up now and stop trying. just accept
your wage and be a contented cog in the machine."

it is my belief that one person can make a measurable impact on the world around them,
i just intend to make mine with words (of what i hope will be wisdom and right-thinking) into the
ears of those that might otherwise fuck us all over, as opposed to fire-bombing the institutions.

[Cain]

Did it ever occur to you that the institutions you are talking about are not woefully misguided or uncomprehending in the impact of their actions and choices, but actively wish for them to occur?  That they're not being slightly irrational, but are entirely rational, and you are just not seeing the advantages which accrue from such actions.

In which case, your advice will be given all the attention one gives to a buzzing insect.

[Cain]

Also, I see a lot of "be a good little cog" here.  No really.

Fuck off    Or stop putting words into others mouths.

[Doktor Howl]

Enjoy your idealism while it lasts.

And enjoy the paycheck and benefits that come with working within the system after it fades.

your fatalistic cynicism and lack of vision is noted, thanks.

my "idealism" has already affected positive change within my (very limited)
sphere of influence, and it shall far outlast the opposition, because
while i might not necessarily be too keen on setting fire to the streets i have
no qualms about setting fire to the minds and imaginations of those around me.
and yes, i have found myself the only one in the room still arguing for a purpose.
this does not worry me

and my "paycheck" is not in government issued currency, i've gone long enough
without it to know that i can, and i have a support system of family and
friends to shore me up while i carry out my little farce. the "benefits" i receive
are not dependent upon the current system. that is kind of the fucking point.
by working to change the system, i am not worried that i will be left out to dry,
for either it will change for the better or i have not yet finished trying to change it.

but again, i thank you for your support

Um.

Patchouli?

[Cain]

The problem with "working in the system" is that it automatically privileges "the system", aka the status quo, the way things currently are, as a mode of organization.  Following on from that, it therefore it reasonable to assume that the only methods of "reforming" the system will be those the system actually allows.

Which is pretty useless if the system in question is a giant behemoth death-machine that sees you as a tribute-extraction being and occasional human shield.

[Dysfunctional Cunt]

Enjoy your idealism while it lasts.

And enjoy the paycheck and benefits that come with working within the system after it fades.

your fatalistic cynicism and lack of vision is noted, thanks.

my "idealism" has already affected positive change within my (very limited)
sphere of influence, and it shall far outlast the opposition, because
while i might not necessarily be too keen on setting fire to the streets i have
no qualms about setting fire to the minds and imaginations of those around me.
and yes, i have found myself the only one in the room still arguing for a purpose.
this does not worry me

and my "paycheck" is not in government issued currency, i've gone long enough
without it to know that i can, and i have a support system of family and
friends to shore me up while i carry out my little farce. the "benefits" i receive
are not dependent upon the current system. that is kind of the fucking point.
by working to change the system, i am not worried that i will be left out to dry,
for either it will change for the better or i have not yet finished trying to change it.

but again, i thank you for your support

Um.

Patchouli?

Well it obviously wasn't in educational spending......