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Started by Cain, August 08, 2011, 07:13:11 PM

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Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on August 11, 2011, 03:06:27 AM
That's just fucking creepy.

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Except they're probably searching for the evil mastermind who orchestrated the whole thing from his Blackberry. Via peoples "Twatter" feeds. 
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You guys sound like you're fine (as in your physical well-being), and I hope it stays that way.

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They were playing more Cameron clips on NPR this morning

he said the riots were not a result of poverty, they were a result of children being raised without respect for authority or a sense of right and wrong


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Yeah, my favourite quote is how we can't ignore the fundamental moral issues at the heart of the riots. Obviously taking away benefits and housing from those who dare to lose control of their children will help whip it right back into shape. It certainly won't perpetuate the problem by making violent looting and jail seem like a more attractive proposition than homelessness.  :)

Ed Milliband, to my shock, actually sounded remarkably sensible in his response to Cameron, and he was trying to stress the complicated nature of the motivations for the riots. He'll be ignored, of course, because 'greedy and entitled poor people want YOUR STUFF' sells more papers than a complex analysis of the issues which are actually at the root of the problems.

Cain predicted more riots in six-nine months, and I reckon that's dead on the money. My dad, bizarrely, seems to think that we won't get riots in winter because the cold dissuades people... I think that when Christmas rolls around and there's a lot more people with a lot less money, that'll exacerbate the economic factor to it.

I also hate that this is being used to allow police the right to demand you take off anything covering your face if they suspect you might possibly be thinking of doing something criminal. I expect to hear about that being used to harass muslim women soon enough. And it'll make it a lot easier to capture pictures of peaceful protesters and make their lives miserable later.

Not that the police would ever do such a thing. No no no.  :roll:
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Quote from: Cramulus on August 11, 2011, 02:58:25 PM
They were playing more Cameron clips on NPR this morning

he said the riots were not a result of poverty, they were a result of children being raised without respect for authority or a sense of right and wrong



Aint easy to hang onto a fluffy moral fiction when you're the one that's been getting shat on since before you were old enough to duck. But then the powers that be know this. Any idiot with half a brain knows this. In other words - a tiny percentage. The rest will swallow it, hook line and sinker and that's all that matters in the end. The people will ask to pay for safety, using freedom as currency and a whole new bunch of police powers will be introduced and nothing will change.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o78eH18OHzM

Street Sweeping after the riots.

Interesting.  Except that macarana part.  Fuck, people still do that?
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Cain

Quote from: Demolition_Squid on August 11, 2011, 03:10:46 PM
Yeah, my favourite quote is how we can't ignore the fundamental moral issues at the heart of the riots. Obviously taking away benefits and housing from those who dare to lose control of their children will help whip it right back into shape. It certainly won't perpetuate the problem by making violent looting and jail seem like a more attractive proposition than homelessness.  :)

Ed Milliband, to my shock, actually sounded remarkably sensible in his response to Cameron, and he was trying to stress the complicated nature of the motivations for the riots. He'll be ignored, of course, because 'greedy and entitled poor people want YOUR STUFF' sells more papers than a complex analysis of the issues which are actually at the root of the problems.

Cain predicted more riots in six-nine months, and I reckon that's dead on the money. My dad, bizarrely, seems to think that we won't get riots in winter because the cold dissuades people... I think that when Christmas rolls around and there's a lot more people with a lot less money, that'll exacerbate the economic factor to it.

I also hate that this is being used to allow police the right to demand you take off anything covering your face if they suspect you might possibly be thinking of doing something criminal. I expect to hear about that being used to harass muslim women soon enough. And it'll make it a lot easier to capture pictures of peaceful protesters and make their lives miserable later.

Not that the police would ever do such a thing. No no no.  :roll:

Harriet Harman owned the fuck out of Michael Gove in a debate the other day, as well.

The cold may well dissuade winter rioting...but this country is massively underequipped for severe cold snaps, and the results of a week of snow (with the attendant food shortages) could be enough to kick something off.  Or, a thaw in spring (our March and April's are pretty mild now, after all).

You know some phrases we haven't heard about, in relation to the riot?  Freedom is messy.  Or creative destruction, or enlightened selfishness or there is no such thing as society.

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Cain

Police given the power to remove all facial coverings, whether they have reasonable suspicion or not.

Councils given the power to evict criminals.

Petition to suspend the benefits of those suspected of being involved in the violence and looting is still doing the rounds.

LMNO

Quote from: Cain on August 11, 2011, 05:06:35 PM
Police given the power to remove all facial coverings, whether they have reasonable suspicion or not.

Councils given the power to evict criminals.

Petition to suspend the benefits of those suspected of being involved in the violence and looting is still doing the rounds.


What are, "Ways to ensure public unrest continues"?



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Cain

1500 people have been arrested and are going through the court system at a surprising rate.

It's amazing how fast the wheels of justice turn, when you're not a banker  :lol:

Adios

Quote from: Cain on August 11, 2011, 05:27:41 PM
1500 people have been arrested and are going through the court system at a surprising rate.

It's amazing how fast the wheels of justice turn, when you're not a banker  :lol:

Justice or injustice? Kangaroo courts are usually short and sweet, aren't they?

Cain

Most people have been caught pretty bang to rights.  Between CCTV and every phone having a camera and all the TV crews out there, there is plenty of documentary evidence to put people away for a while.

Adios

Quote from: Cain on August 11, 2011, 05:30:30 PM
Most people have been caught pretty bang to rights.  Between CCTV and every phone having a camera and all the TV crews out there, there is plenty of documentary evidence to put people away for a while.

Catch 22? They will have to lower benefits to pay for everyone in prison now? Hell of a decade.