FILL THAT MALNOURISHED MEAT-BUCKET YUO CALL A HEAD, BOB SPAGGOTS

[Elder Iptuous]

 
ok...
i'll bite.
why is software engineering not engineering?

[Kai]

Engineering is manipulation of materials and forces.

Software "engineering" is manipulation of code/information. Otherwise known as computer programming.

[East Coast Hustle]

Thanks Kai! I was having trouble articulating that and was going to have to resort to something snarky but ultimately not helpful as an answer.


Ippy: What Kai said.

[Nadezhda]

They are NOT engineering courses, they are computer courses erroneously called "engineering" courses.

My    turned into a 

[navkat]

They are NOT engineering courses, they are computer courses erroneously called "engineering" courses.

My    turned into a 

Why? Because some of the big kids aren't impressed?

zOMG do u maek ur lyfe decisions based on wut ur frends say to?

You were interested in these courses simply because you were interested. Go with that, it's guttural and it what drives the apes out of the nit-picking, ass-scratching jungle. Fill ur meet-bucket, spag.

[navkat]

In case you haven't noticed, all the old-timers on this board argue...a lot.

a lot a lot.

With everything. Doesn't mean either of us is wrong, just that we're argumentative sons of bitches. It is the True Meaning^tm of "Discord."

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

They are NOT engineering courses, they are computer courses erroneously called "engineering" courses.

My    turned into a  

Why? Because some of the big kids aren't impressed?

zOMG do u maek ur lyfe decisions based on wut ur frends say to?

You were interested in these courses simply because you were interested. Go with that, it's guttural and it what drives the apes out of the nit-picking, ass-scratching jungle. Fill ur meet-bucket, spag.

My impression is that, like me, she was interested in engineering courses, and is disappointed because it turns out that these are actually computer science courses. There's no need to make fun of her for that.

[Nadezhda]

They are NOT engineering courses, they are computer courses erroneously called "engineering" courses.

My    turned into a 

Why? Because some of the big kids aren't impressed?

zOMG do u maek ur lyfe decisions based on wut ur frends say to?

You were interested in these courses simply because you were interested. Go with that, it's guttural and it what drives the apes out of the nit-picking, ass-scratching jungle. Fill ur meet-bucket, spag.

LOLZ

I was looking for real engineer courses.  Software engineering is cool, but not really something I'm interested in at this moment in time, hence the sad.  As a student of Anthropology, in the middle of her degree, I HAVE been fillin mah meet-bukkit with the actual reasons that apes went out of teh junglez.  I have too much reel edukashuns to focus on to waste my time with something mislabelled that I was never interested in, in the first place.

THANX 4 POSTING THO, IF I EVER WNT TO LERN COMPLUTER PROGROMMIN OUTSIDE OF TEH UNERVISTIY, I VILL TOTES LOOK THESE LINQS UP AGAINZ.   

[EDIT - I type slow.  Basically, what Nigel said, but with a splash reactionary asshattery!]

[East Coast Hustle]

They are NOT engineering courses, they are computer courses erroneously called "engineering" courses.

My    turned into a  

Why? Because some of the big kids aren't impressed?

zOMG do u maek ur lyfe decisions based on wut ur frends say to?

You were interested in these courses simply because you were interested. Go with that, it's guttural and it what drives the apes out of the nit-picking, ass-scratching jungle. Fill ur meet-bucket, spag.

Maybe she was just interested in, y'know, ACTUAL engineering courses.

ETA: Oops, looks like Nadezhda didn't need anyone's help laying the ownage down.

[navkat]

Okay, my bad.

You should poke at the Stanford course offerings anyway. Even the ones which don't offer a cred might be of interest to you. I wish I had the head for maths, but alas for Alice! I got all the verbal/vocab/written/reading brainz and none of the "OMGzORZ SHOW ALL WORK" algorhythms are my LYFE brainz.

[Nadezhda]

My brain, as far as number-like things go, is to FLAIL and NOT UNDERSTAND and be ANGST and then all of a sudden get it and be able to do it perfectly.  It's easier to do this under the care of a professor/TA.  I'm not sure how difficult it would be to take American courses as a Canadian student (as far as transferring credit goes :P)

[navkat]

They are NOT engineering courses, they are computer courses erroneously called "engineering" courses.

My    turned into a  

Why? Because some of the big kids aren't impressed?

zOMG do u maek ur lyfe decisions based on wut ur frends say to?

You were interested in these courses simply because you were interested. Go with that, it's guttural and it what drives the apes out of the nit-picking, ass-scratching jungle. Fill ur meet-bucket, spag.

Maybe she was just interested in, y'know, ACTUAL engineering courses.

ETA: Oops, looks like Nadezhda didn't need anyone's help laying the ownage down.

I didn't realize I was being owned. Sorries. I'll try to be moar butthurtz after I've finished my coffee.

No seriously: I know my post was kind of sarcastic but I wasn't trying to own Nadhezzzawhatevhumhur. It was more of an encouraging poke saying "Fuck what these morons think! PUT IT IN YOU."

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I believe that MIT and UC Berkeley both offer more extensive free online courses, so that might be the more effective way to go.

http://ocw.mit.edu/index.htm
http://webcast.berkeley.edu/

[Elder Iptuous]

ECH. your definition of engineering is too limited.
the application of science and mathematics to create useful systems is engineering.
software fits that bill...

and if you say that they are only manipulating a machine, then where do you draw the line?
If you are designing an IC chip, i assume you would call that engineering, right?
and if you were taking an FPGA design and creating an ASIC from it, wouldn't that be engineering?
so when you do the FPGA design, that is engineering, right?
well, that's done in code, though.... so, is it programming, or engineering?

[East Coast Hustle]

I don't speak acronym.

And I'm really not interested in a semantic argument about it anyway. you're probably right in a very technical sense, but in an old-school "how fucking useful is this going to be with my ass on the line?" sense, if I can't use the knowledge to make it float, fly, drive, power something that does one of those things, or keep nature and/or other destructive elements at bay, it's not the kind of engineering I'm interested in.

I mean, hell, there are people who are into social engineering. That's all well and good and they're creating and influencing systems too, but I'm still going to be eating them when the time comes for that sort of thing.