Cain, your thoughts

[Disco Pickle]

I considered putting this in Apple Talk, but since it's primarily political and sociological, I put it here.

I want to say up front that upon reflection you are, of course, free to "loose your shit" whenever and however you like, at whomever you like.  I apologize only for asking you to calm down, nothing more.

In the interest of reasoned discourse between people who disagree on certain aspects of the world and human society, have you happened to read any of the body of work of William Graham Sumner, (I assume you have, given your depth of knowledge, but ask because I do not know) and if so, did you reject it outright as flawed and if so, would you mind giving me your reasons why?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

You asked Cain to calm down?

Cain was anything other than calm? 

[Disco Pickle]

Eh, there was some heated talk.  I took it personally at the time.  That was a mistake on my part.  

I have seen, through some digging in past posts, that things like that have been hashed out here and it's easy to see why finding that there is "another asshole who thinks that's the right way" could cause someone to pop a vein.  It doesn't mean I agree with it, because who wants a forum like this where everyone thinks the same way?  It does mean I understand it, and I never hold a grudge for what was really a disagreement on the "hows" and "whys" no matter how full of vitriol.  

It seemed to me you really meant to call me an idiot because I don't see the world in the same way you do.  I took issue with that and devolved into shit throwing rage, hilariously illustrated by Roger.   I am choosing to not take it personally and asking you to explain the problems with my view.

 
[edited from original due to burbon induced grammar mistakes]

[ETAALSO] I'm familiar with the many common refutations of his premises, and I do not reject those out of some misinformed indoctrinate belief in the "purity of the the free market", Roger's assertions aside.]

I want your raw assessment, if you're inclined to give it.

[LMNO]

Is William Graham Sumner the "All Free Markets, All the Time" and "Social Darwinism" guy?

I think there's a 20 page thread around that latter term, somewhere.

[Disco Pickle]

That was Herbert Spenser, at least originally.  But he was influenced by his writings.