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Started by ThatGreenGentleman, October 01, 2011, 01:38:04 AM

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Quote from: Nigel on October 03, 2011, 07:50:59 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 03, 2011, 07:37:30 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 03, 2011, 07:24:37 PM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 02, 2011, 10:40:24 PM
Quote from: ThatGreenGentleman on October 01, 2011, 01:38:04 AM
but it's their fault for always being in my like a bicyclist being in a car's way.

Personally I've also always felt that bicyclists should be classified as pedestrians, and thus should not bve in the street.

That's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard. Bicycles are dangerous as fuck to pedestrians and do not belong on sidewalks.

I think it really depends on the width and traffic of the sidewalk.

What the fuck is wrong with you? Did you develop Aspergers all of a sudden?

To be fair, bikes and pedestrians do get along pretty well on the Hawthorne bridge.
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Bikes are vehicles, and they should fucking act like it.

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So you mean I should update my tweets while swerving in and out of my own lane and drink a bottle of vodka while cycling?

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Only if you're talking on your cell phone at the same time.

Triple Zero

Texting while on a bike is seriously quite impossible, fortunately.

I'm not really experienced with texting while driving--except on the passenger's seat--but would you rate it as harder or easier than texting while walking? Maybe I'm just a klutz but texting while walking causes me to walk into stuff like 1 in 3 times. Fortunately as a pedestrian you don't go that fast so you just look stoopid instead of DED and WRAPPED IN METAL. But what gives? Is it easier while driving?
Being on the phone while walking or bicycling then again, is hardly a big deal (although I'm sure it's statitistacally unsafer).
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Quote from: Triple Zero on October 04, 2011, 04:01:03 PM
Texting while on a bike is seriously quite impossible, fortunately.

I'm not really experienced with texting while driving--except on the passenger's seat--but would you rate it as harder or easier than texting while walking? Maybe I'm just a klutz but texting while walking causes me to walk into stuff like 1 in 3 times. Fortunately as a pedestrian you don't go that fast so you just look stoopid instead of DED and WRAPPED IN METAL. But what gives? Is it easier while driving?
Being on the phone while walking or bicycling then again, is hardly a big deal (although I'm sure it's statitistacally unsafer).

I used to be able to text and drive rather easily on regular 10-key using tap. The second I went QWERTY, I lost all ability to do so (although the voice-text dealy on my Android allows me to spit out short, rote messages with a fair degree of success). I certainly cannot talk and ride though. I spent more than I should have on noise canceling hands free and it hasn't even made a dent. Both of my bikes are fitted super-aggressive though, so I'm sure having my head that far over my body makes it much worse than it would be if I was in a more relaxed posture.
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sum1 just said we cant txt on bikes
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LOL ORLY?
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Regarding bikes v. cars, i have always been of the opinion that when the laws of the land are in conflict with the laws of physics, it is foolish to obey the former.
it pisses me off when i'm going down a 55 mph road with an actually observed speed of 65, and everyone has to slow down suddenly to <20 mph for some guy in spandex that won't even pull off to the shoulder (which is fucking ample here in TX).

bikes are great.  we should use them more.  but the road sharing conflict clearly needs to be overcome by dedicated bicycle lanes and recognition of relative momentum.

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i believe the outcome of a bicycle-pedestrian collision is preferrable to a bicycle-automobile collision.
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Quote from: rong on November 28, 2011, 08:57:28 PM
i believe the outcome of a bicycle-pedestrian collision is preferrable to a bicycle-automobile collision.

Generally true. Problem is, it's not that simple. I live in a city with tons of bike lanes and completely segregated trails. There's still, though, a few stretches where it's sidewalk v. car lane, and when it comes down to that, pedestrians or no, the biker is still much safer in the car lane than on the sidewalk due to visibility!

When you're making  left turn, be honest...how often do you really check the sidewalk for oncoming traffic? Or if you're making a right turn (and there's no bike lane clearly marked) if you're like most people, you just stare to the left until you're about 1/2 into your turn. Even those who do routinely check the sidewalks, aren't looking for something coming 20-25mph, they're looking for a couple pushing a stroller.
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Quote from: Triple Zero on October 04, 2011, 04:01:03 PM
I'm not really experienced with texting while driving--except on the passenger's seat--but would you rate it as harder or easier than texting while walking? Maybe I'm just a klutz but texting while walking causes me to walk into stuff like 1 in 3 times. Fortunately as a pedestrian you don't go that fast so you just look stoopid instead of DED and WRAPPED IN METAL. But what gives? Is it easier while driving?

All you have to do is keep your foot on the gas, type your message and whenever you get around to finishing it look back up. Anything you hit in the interim was just a speed bump. You're in a car! Duh! Nothing can hurt you

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Quote from: NoLeDeMiel on November 28, 2011, 07:20:51 AM
I used to be able to text and drive rather easily on regular 10-key using tap. The second I went QWERTY, I lost all ability to do so (although the voice-text dealy on my Android allows me to spit out short, rote messages with a fair degree of success).

This. Except the thought of talking at a machine like that disturbs me more than is probably reasonable. It's bad enough I have to talk to people over the phone sometimes.
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Quote from: rong on November 28, 2011, 08:57:28 PM
i believe the outcome of a bicycle-pedestrian collision is preferrable to a bicycle-automobile collision.

THANK YOU!

How is this not obvious to everyone else as well?
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Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on December 04, 2011, 08:03:08 PM
Quote from: rong on November 28, 2011, 08:57:28 PM
i believe the outcome of a bicycle-pedestrian collision is preferrable to a bicycle-automobile collision.

THANK YOU!

How is this not obvious to everyone else as well?

Because it's a stupid thing to say? "The outcome" could be a dead bicyclist and a dead pedestrian. The reason there are more car-bike fatalities is largely because there are more car-bike collisions.

It may be more "favorable" to the bicyclist, but the odds of severe injury to both parties are still pretty high, unless you're riding really slowly. In which case, just get the fuck off your bike to text.

Some asshole riding his bike on the sidewalk killed a toddler in a stroller here not too long ago. So shit your retard-hole until your thinkpan develops some better reasoning skills.
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Quote from: Nigel on December 04, 2011, 08:39:21 PM
The reason there are more car-bike fatalities is largely because there are more car-bike collisions.

This is true?
not dismissing the severity of a bike/ped collision (to both parties), it would have seemed an easy guess to me that there would have been a significantly higher percentage of fatalities in car-bike collisions, simply due to the total energy of impact, and the higher disparity between the two when a car is going any appreciable speed at all.
But after your post i am doubting this guess, and am curious to know where you learned this. i did quick googling but couldn't find the appropriate statistics.

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Quote from: Iptuous on December 05, 2011, 02:33:47 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 04, 2011, 08:39:21 PM
The reason there are more car-bike fatalities is largely because there are more car-bike collisions.

This is true?
not dismissing the severity of a bike/ped collision (to both parties), it would have seemed an easy guess to me that there would have been a significantly higher percentage of fatalities in car-bike collisions, simply due to the total energy of impact, and the higher disparity between the two when a car is going any appreciable speed at all.
But after your post i am doubting this guess, and am curious to know where you learned this. i did quick googling but couldn't find the appropriate statistics.

There aren't really any statistics on it because there aren't enough bike/pedestrian collisions for statistics to be collected. It's probably not strictly true, but there are a lot of non-fatal auto/bike collisions, and a few fatal bike/pedestrian collisions annually. A bicycle is a machine that can travel at 35 mph or faster, and neither the bicyclist nor the pedestrians have much to protect them in the case of a collision.

Bicycles do not belong on the sidewalk unless they are being ridden by children, or at very low speed.
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This is the kind of thing that I'd like to see tested on Mythbusters...
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