Annotated Principia Discordia

[Telarus]

Hey Telarus - for next week's entry, I'm going to mention the official Discordian document numbering system

As I understand it, this code: ODD# II/2,xii;68Chs3136

means this document was written by Mal-2 on December 26, 1970.

What does the II/2,xii part mean? I know it's supposed to represent which sect of Discordia the document comes from. But which one is II/2,xii?

Where did you get the ODD#? I'd like to see the source.

Best I can tell, if that is a 'modern' ODD# (I.E based on the last incarnation of the POEE Chart, which got included in the PD), it breaks down thusly:

You have the date.

The other code II/2,xii seems to indicate that this is a document from [ II (The house of the Rising Collapse); no submarker, as the next section is the same?] / [ 2 (The House of the Rising Collapse); xii (twelve? ok, if I just cycle count I get  B. The Breeze of Integrity and/or The Wind of Arrogance ]

Unless I can get more info, or we uncover an updated Disorganizational Matrix......

[Cramulus]

Tonight, I'm the sauce boss: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/book/7.php

[Telarus]

Shit, how'd I miss that one. Ok, now to compare it to some of the other editions.

[Telarus]

Ok, found another ODD# to compare it to (fuck you google, I need literal strings):

ODD #IV(c);biii;23DSC3155

http://jubal.westnet.com/hyperdiscordia/five_realities.html

This seems to translate to:

IV(c) - The Legion of Dynamic Discord

b iii - The Breeze of Beauty and/or The Wind of Outrages

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See, now I want to find more. There's a couple more on jubal.westnet.com. OH, here we go:

http://www.23ae.com/format/pdorig/pdorig055.htm

Form No. : O.D.D. Iib/ii.1-37D.VVM:3134

II b - The Breeze of Integrity and/or The Wind of Arrogance
ii.1 - The Breeze of Wisdom and/or The Wind of Insanity

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Oh, and in RAW's Illuminati Papers we have this communique:

http://books.google.com/books?id=v040Hpa7xnoC&pg=PA92&lpg=PA92&dq=%22Official+Discordian+Document%22+-Shall&source=bl&ots=z4OyQqsJWj&sig=PHvvxOLybvJciLrTiLVyjHvFLzs&hl=en&ei=SZ6pTtvsMauksQKKpNSkDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCcQ6AEwAjgK#v=onepage&q=%22Official%20Discordian%20Document%22%20-Shall&f=false

ODD# 2b;iii/V;60EM3134

2 b - The Breeze of Integrity and/or The Wind of Arrogance
iii/V - The Bureau of Aneristic Affairs, and the Administry for the Orders of Discordia

[notathing]

 

I'm looking forward to the next installment!

[Cramulus]

Today we're looking at the second title page:
http://23ae.com/2011/11/annotated-principia-discordia-page-7/

Big thanks to Telarus for the info hookup!

[Cramulus]

short post today, discussing page 2:

http://23ae.com/2011/11/annotated-principia-discordia-page-8/

[Cramulus]

Help me out remembering some tidbits from Illuminatus---

Is Gruad the Gray the same dude as Zarathud (patron saint of Bureaucracy)?




I know Gruad and the Dealy Lama are the same guy.

from TVTropes entry on "True Neutral":

The Dealy Lama AKA Gruad the Grayface from The Illuminatus! Trilogy. His philosophy is summed up best by an old koan which tells about a duckling that is placed in a glass bottle and allowed to grow until it is too big to fit through the bottle neck, and asks how to remove it without breaking the bottle. The answer, of course is to let it continue to grow until it is big enough to break out of the bottle on its own. However, he denies being uninvolved in world affairs, stating that "someone needs to feed the duckling while it grows".

that does seem like it might fit with the actions of the patron saint of bureaucracy... Because the Discordian approach to order is to feed the order until it hits the breaking point, making room for Aftermath. If I'm sniffing up the right tree, then that's Zarathud's advice to us -- "Feed the duck until it can destroy the bottle by itself."

[Cramulus]

can anybody translate?

DIRUIT AEDIFICAT MUTAT QUADRATA ROTUNDUS
- Horace

(from page 00015)

[Chairman Risus]

can anybody translate?

DIRUIT AEDIFICAT MUTAT QUADRATA ROTUNDUS

(from page 00015)

Dirty wikipedia latin delivers this:

diruit> diruo
Verb
present active dīruō, present infinitive dīruere, perfect active dīruī, supine dīrutum.
I overthrow, demolish, destroy
I scatter

aedificat> aedifico
Verb
present active aedificō, present infinitive aedificāre, perfect active aedificāvī, supine aedificātum.
I build, erect, establish; I create, frame

mutat> muto
Verb
present active mūtō, present infinitive mūtāre, perfect active mūtāvī, supine mūtātum.
I move, remove.
I alter, change, modify, transform.
I vary, diversify.
I mutate, spoil.
I exchange, barter, sell.
I forsake.

quadrata> quadro
Verb
present active quadrō, present infinitive quadrāre, perfect active quadrāvī, supine quadrātum.
I make four-cornered, square, make square.
I put in order, join properly, complete, perfect.
(passive) I agree with, fit with, square with.
(of accounts) I accord, agree.
(of words) I am fitting, appropriate.

rotundus>
Adjective
rotundus m (feminine rotunda, neuter rotundum); first/second declension
round, circular
spherical, rotund
(figuratively) rounded, perfect
(figuratively, of speech) polished, elegant
(substantive) A sphere

[Kai]

Paging Phox.

[Cain]

It's from Horace's Epistles I.

Here is the full verse it is found in:

If, when we meet, I'm cropped in awkward style
By some uneven barber, then you smile;
You smile, if, as it haps, my gown's askew,
If my shirt's ragged while my tunic's new:
How, if my mind's inconsequent, rejects
What late it longed for, what it loathed affects,
Shifts every moment, with itself at strife,
And makes a chaos of an ordered life,
Builds castles up, then pulls them to the ground,
Keeps changing round for square and square for round?
You smile not; 'tis an every-day affair;
I need no doctor's, no, nor keeper's care:
Yet you're my patron, and would blush to fail
In taking notice of an ill-pared nail.

So, to sum up: the sage is half divine,
Rich, free, great, handsome, king of kings, in fine;
A miracle of health from toe to crown,
Mind, heart, and head, save when his nose runs down.

[Cramulus]

Exactly what I was looking for.
You are the MAN.

[Telarus]

Cain beat me to it! Nice work Cain.

This site has an alternate translation:

Razing, re-building, and altering round to square:

Or this one: http://www.authorama.com/works-of-horace-8.html

What [do you do], when my judgment contradicts itself? it despises what it before desired; seeks for that which lately it neglected; is all in a ferment, and is inconsistent in the whole tenor of life; pulls down, builds up, changes square to round.

[The Wizard Joseph]

This thread is great.  Cram I'm truly impressed and almost giddy to read this work.  Mittens are not enough!