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Started by LMNO, December 08, 2011, 03:30:01 AM

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LMNO

So, I guess my only downtime for content here will be from my phone, so we should try to see how that goes. 

I, the people, deserve more than these half-dead automatons who never even tried to open their eyes. The first whiff of adversity, and they do one of two things: give up, or try to cheat their way past it. At no time do they realize that the way to get past it is to just KEEP GOING. Not beat your head against the wall, that's one of the definitions of insanity. Plus, those monkeys already do that-- it's one of the worst ways to give up, to never change, to ignore what's going on around you and just keep doing what you're told. 

So they come to me, because they see that I'm riding over top of it all. And they don't want to do it themselves, they want to take it from me. They want me to show them what to do, as if the obvious is some sort of secret. Worse yet, they want me to do it for them. But even if I tell them the Truth, they refuse to accept it. 

And then, the pragmatic: I can/ I must stay friendly with them. More than that, they can be used. And I start feeling dirty, and powerful at the same time. I'm taking advantage of sleepwalkers, which isn't a win, it's just kicking puppies. 

That's what it is. Day in, day out. Idiots that try to take advantage of you, while you're obviously using the fuck out of them. And they don't even notice. It would be sad if it wasn't so funny. 

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

Welcome to 2 million years of primate behavior, LMNO.  About the best you can hope for is to put food on the table while still being able to look at the guy in the shaving mirror each morning.

But let's face facts, man:  People are primates, pack animals, and thus 99% of them expect to be used, demand it in fact.  They are miserable unless they know their place in the pecking order (even if that place is on the wrong side of the glory hole), and you aren't doing any favors by going easy on them.  What THAT does is make them desperately unhappy and in the mood to PUNISH THOSE WHO ARE FUCKING UP THE HEIRARCHY OF FUCKERISM.  Which would be, well, you.

As your spiritual adviser and attorney, I suggest you NOT be so foolish as to do that, and continue fisting them as per their request.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

What's odd is that I'm not naturally an Alpha.  Hell, I'm a little brother from a modified 1950s standard home (patriarch, et al). I'm just... better? than they are. It's a weird feeling.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 08, 2011, 03:45:24 AM
What's odd is that I'm not naturally an Alpha.  Hell, I'm a little brother from a modified 1950s standard home (patriarch, et al). I'm just... better? than they are. It's a weird feeling.

Sure you're an alpha.  It's just that what MAKES a person an alpha changes with age and context.  Go look in the server room, for instance.  There are even alpha IT people.  They're the ones that button the shirt ALL the way up, and maybe have a clip on tie.  The KING HELL alpha IT geek is the guy with geologic-esque layers of agglomerate food on his shirt, and the most elaborate plumage (ie, neck beard).

So in your environment, the guy who gets things done without being an ass-kisser or slave is the alpha, just as in high school, the captain of the football team was the alpha (and is now working as a security guard at the mall).  It's really that simple.

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

Also, it's not that you're necessarily better, it's just that you have "Bob", and they don't. 

This isn't complicated.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

P3nT4gR4m

I never liked the whole Alpha thing. Struck me the alpha is just as much a slave as the rest of the pack. He's the one that's expected to have a plan, keep everyone organised, fight off attacks from other alphas. Basically, even factoring in his power to delegate, the alpha does a fuckton of work.

Funny thing is, I'm a natural alpha. I do things my way and if you're working with me you'll do things my way too or I'll kill you and then fuck your wife. But if you're working with me I've fucked up. I avoid work. These cocksuckers are paying me just enough to make it worth suffering the inconvenience of getting out my bed at stupid-AM and being somewhere I don't want to be for 8 hours of my life that I'll never get back but work? Bollox. I do the bare minimum and it takes as long as I can get away with and still look good.

I'm not an alpha and Im not a drone. I'm something else. Something that doesn't belong here. Something that would probably scare the fuck out of them if I wasn't so damn good at hiding it.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
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walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on December 08, 2011, 12:08:37 PM
I never liked the whole Alpha thing. Struck me the alpha is just as much a slave as the rest of the pack. He's the one that's expected to have a plan, keep everyone organised, fight off attacks from other alphas. Basically, even factoring in his power to delegate, the alpha does a fuckton of work.

Funny thing is, I'm a natural alpha. I do things my way and if you're working with me you'll do things my way too or I'll kill you and then fuck your wife. But if you're working with me I've fucked up. I avoid work. These cocksuckers are paying me just enough to make it worth suffering the inconvenience of getting out my bed at stupid-AM and being somewhere I don't want to be for 8 hours of my life that I'll never get back but work? Bollox. I do the bare minimum and it takes as long as I can get away with and still look good.

I'm not an alpha and Im not a drone. I'm something else. Something that doesn't belong here. Something that would probably scare the fuck out of them if I wasn't so damn good at hiding it.

You're pompous and boring.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: Nigel on December 08, 2011, 04:46:15 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on December 08, 2011, 12:08:37 PM
I never liked the whole Alpha thing. Struck me the alpha is just as much a slave as the rest of the pack. He's the one that's expected to have a plan, keep everyone organised, fight off attacks from other alphas. Basically, even factoring in his power to delegate, the alpha does a fuckton of work.

Funny thing is, I'm a natural alpha. I do things my way and if you're working with me you'll do things my way too or I'll kill you and then fuck your wife. But if you're working with me I've fucked up. I avoid work. These cocksuckers are paying me just enough to make it worth suffering the inconvenience of getting out my bed at stupid-AM and being somewhere I don't want to be for 8 hours of my life that I'll never get back but work? Bollox. I do the bare minimum and it takes as long as I can get away with and still look good.

I'm not an alpha and Im not a drone. I'm something else. Something that doesn't belong here. Something that would probably scare the fuck out of them if I wasn't so damn good at hiding it.

You're pompous and boring.

Yeah, and you're a whiny bitch but at least we didn't get personal.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on December 08, 2011, 04:54:03 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 08, 2011, 04:46:15 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on December 08, 2011, 12:08:37 PM
I never liked the whole Alpha thing. Struck me the alpha is just as much a slave as the rest of the pack. He's the one that's expected to have a plan, keep everyone organised, fight off attacks from other alphas. Basically, even factoring in his power to delegate, the alpha does a fuckton of work.

Funny thing is, I'm a natural alpha. I do things my way and if you're working with me you'll do things my way too or I'll kill you and then fuck your wife. But if you're working with me I've fucked up. I avoid work. These cocksuckers are paying me just enough to make it worth suffering the inconvenience of getting out my bed at stupid-AM and being somewhere I don't want to be for 8 hours of my life that I'll never get back but work? Bollox. I do the bare minimum and it takes as long as I can get away with and still look good.

I'm not an alpha and Im not a drone. I'm something else. Something that doesn't belong here. Something that would probably scare the fuck out of them if I wasn't so damn good at hiding it.

You're pompous and boring.

Yeah, and you're a whiny bitch but at least we didn't get personal.

Sorry, I'd just read one too many of your "I'm a sociopath and that's cute" posts, and I snapped. The whole Happy Tree Friends shtick is pretty tiresome.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

The "brat" thing is annoying on preteen girls, but especially unbecoming on men.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on December 08, 2011, 12:08:37 PMyou'll do things my way too or I'll kill you and then fuck your wife. But if you're working with me I've fucked up. I avoid work. These cocksuckers are paying me just enough to make it worth suffering the inconvenience of getting out my bed at stupid-AM and being somewhere I don't want to be for 8 hours of my life that I'll never get back but work? Bollox. I do the bare minimum and it takes as long as I can get away with and still look good.

I'm not an alpha and Im not a drone. I'm something else. Something that doesn't belong here. Something that would probably scare the fuck out of them if I wasn't so damn good at hiding it.

I mean baaaaaarrrrfffff what are you, 13? RUN REBEL RUN.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on December 08, 2011, 12:08:37 PM
I never liked the whole Alpha thing. Struck me the alpha is just as much a slave as the rest of the pack.

Well, that's why they call it The MachineTM, P3nT.  They've finally created slavery with no masters.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 08, 2011, 05:46:57 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on December 08, 2011, 12:08:37 PM
I never liked the whole Alpha thing. Struck me the alpha is just as much a slave as the rest of the pack.

Well, that's why they call it The MachineTM, P3nT.  They've finally created slavery with no masters.

I think it's always been like that, tbh. I came to this conclusion when a guy was explaining dog psychology to me. I'd always figured all dogs wanted to be alpha but apparently it's only a special kind of headcase that wants to take on the mantle. When dog owners don't provide strong enough leadership the dog feels compelled to take on the role but the majority aren't happy with it and become neurotic as fuck. Made a lot of sense to me.

Translate to hairless primates and what do you see? Sales in pepto-bismol are through the roof.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

rong

Slaves work harder if they think they are not slaves.
"a real smart feller, he felt smart"