ANOTHER IMAGE SEARCH CHALLENGE

[Pæs]

I'm trying to work out whether the little gray dots are some kind of identifying mark or whether they're something similar to a moiré pattern

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I am giving up on this one as much as I would like to know where it is (it's beautiful). I've looked at pictures of rivers all over the world and there are a metric fuckton of rivers that look almost but not quite exactly like this.

[Pæs]

After consulting some expert friends, I am told that the gray pixels are indeed a moiré pattern, meaning that the image was converted for printing twice.
Turned into dots twice and the dots are converging to form that pattern. http://www.tentopet.com/Screentones/screentones3.html
I'm curious whether the original image, if this is not that, had those dots as well.

[Pæs]

Interesting how much the vegetation depends on the river. The terrain around it looks volcanic.
I'm thinking Icelandic or similar and searching for combinations of "Tourism/Travel", "River" and whichever area I think it might be at the time.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I was thinking volcanic as well, but it has a lot in common with the high-altitude deserts of the Himalayas as well as those of Utah.

[Triple Zero]

After consulting some expert friends, I am told that the gray pixels are indeed a moiré pattern, meaning that the image was converted for printing twice.
Turned into dots twice and the dots are converging to form that pattern. http://www.tentopet.com/Screentones/screentones3.html
I'm curious whether the original image, if this is not that, had those dots as well.

Yes that was my guess too.

As in, it's probably a scan/photo from a magazine or something (then the CMYK halftones interfere with the scanner pixels to form a moire). Though it could be that it was scanned, printed and scanned again.

[Dysfunctional Cunt]

Is it in Norway?

[Scribbly]

Is it in Norway?

It is not in Norway, no.

[Pæs]

After consulting some expert friends, I am told that the gray pixels are indeed a moiré pattern, meaning that the image was converted for printing twice.
Turned into dots twice and the dots are converging to form that pattern. http://www.tentopet.com/Screentones/screentones3.html
I'm curious whether the original image, if this is not that, had those dots as well.

Yes that was my guess too.

As in, it's probably a scan/photo from a magazine or something (then the CMYK halftones interfere with the scanner pixels to form a moire). Though it could be that it was scanned, printed and scanned again.

Mmm, I wonder if we can use that at all. 


When you scan C-M-Y-K
and some pixels turn grey,

that's.... a moiré.

[Pæs]

It's similar to searching for a picture of a specific sunset, if we can't lock down anything unique about it.
Has the image been cropped out of another or does it exist just like this somewhere on the web?

[Triple Zero]

It's similar to searching for a picture of a specific sunset, if we can't lock down anything unique about it.

There's LOTS of stuff! Do like this, write down everything you see or think that may be possibly relevant, then just search general information about it. Like you did for moire patterns, and like I'm going to do for "inward investment journalism", then everybody does that and just keeps riffing off everything they bring to the table until we hit our target.

HOPEFULLY this will be a bit more challenging.

Edit for non-shitty resolution.

That's a real pretty picture.

It is! Looking at pretty pictures of places is basically the best part of my work.  

... Well, sometimes learning that a couple hundred people read something I wrote is pretty nice, too. But the pretty pictures come up more. Inward investment journalism rarely gains more than about 30 interested parties.

1. if that is the non-shitty resolution, it means he was looking at a rather tiny thumbnail at first. so it comes from a photo gallery on a website. possibly private, though.

2. Looking at pretty pictures of places is part of Demolition Squid's work, what is his work, anyone know?

3. What is "Inward investment journalism" ?

Cram, what you linked to is not a tourism site at all. It is something about "Social Development Financial Assistance Programs":

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gmka.org.tr%2Fbolgemiz

4. The moire dots tell us it is a scan from a magazine (your average consumer grade inkjet printer won't give moire like that, nor as vibrant colours). Maybe a prospect folder for potential investors? It doesn't look like a place for people to build holiday homes or stuff, so what are people going to invest in? Either for protecting or destroying the environments. They wouldn't have used such a pretty picture to convince people to invest in fucking it up by building hydro electric dams, so I'm going to go with protecting the environment.

5. Like Cram, I am also intrigued by the tiny pond in the curve of the river. Are there man-made structures there? A small dock or pier or something? Or is it entirely natural? I can't quite make out the details.

6. We need our resident Geology spags in here to determine exactly what kinds of rock/mountains we're looking at. CAINAD and THE OTHER GEOLOGY SPAGS I FORGET WHO get your asses over here!! We should be able to do a lot better than just "it looks volcanic".

7. Can we identify anything about the vegetation? The trees are not pine trees but broadleaf trees, even the dark leafless ones higher up at the side of the mountains. This means it's not a cold climate and probably not at a very high altitude (excepting some weird local climate quirk).

[Luna]

Reminds me a bit of the second photo down here:

http://www.hrphotocontest.com/index.php?menu=5&usrID=5913&sub=blog&bID=1106

(There are some blindingly beautiful shots there, so, sharing.)

[Triple Zero]

Luna, beautiful shots indeed. It is water near a mountain slope, and the slope kind of looks similar, but the climate looks colder and the rock different. I'm still waiting for the geology spags take on this!



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inward_investment

Inward investment is the injection of money from an external source into a region, in order to purchase capital goods for a branch of a corporation to locate or develop its presence in the region.

Foreign sources, such as transnational corporations or multinational corporations invest money by introducing new industrial sites to an area, in order to produce more of their product, sometimes in response to changes noticed in that area, such as a growing population or enhanced transport network. Inward investment creates jobs in an area and brings wealth into the economy.

Image Searching for "inward investment" plus a keyword or two from "rock", "river", "mountains", "valley" turns up assloads of pictures of landscapes kind of like this one (not the landscape, but the type of picture: pretty, promotional and often shot from above).

So it's not a generic stock photo but a photograph from a specific region, as printed in an informational pamphlet/flyer/booklet for potential investors and related parties.

Though this particular piece of river might not necessarily be the focus of the relevant inward investment project, it could also simply be a pretty piece of scenery in the region, while the investment project deals with other loca things.

I guess it could either be shot specifically for this project, or licensed from a local Board of Tourism or Environmental Preservation Something.

[Luna]

Is that a pond in the bend of the river?  Resolution on my phone is the suck, but it feels more like a building, of some sort.  The big, black spot on it doesn't look like a rock, too round and totally different from the surrounding stone.

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I do not believe those dots are a moire. Moire's are interference patterns that also arise from things like netting, screens or any two mismatched grids, not just from scanned halftones. So you'd expect to see at least one set of the lines involved with that, but there is no visible halftone at all. If you zoom in on those dots, they look too perfectly round, as though it was a layer of dots turned mostly transparent before being overlaid on the photo.

I think the dots are a less obtrusive form of a watermark.