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Started by Phox, February 07, 2012, 09:17:04 PM

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Quote from: Wolfgang Absolutus on February 07, 2012, 11:08:03 PM
2. Ill change my mind at some point in the future and then Ill regret writing such stupid things as they are not consistent with my present self.
That's called learning and there's nothing wrong with going, "oh shit, I cannot believe I said/thought that." (you learned that it was silly, which is the thing, right?)
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The Rev

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 12:02:28 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on February 07, 2012, 11:52:34 PM
Sometimes, to me, it seems there is a perceived standard. If we think we cannot meet the standard then we simply decide to not write.

The truth is, while some can produce excellent material, not every word that is written in this sacred hall is masterful. We just tend to forget the average and concentrate on the great, which can lead to feeling unworthy to make the attempt. If you want to make a great loaf of bread you better be prepared to make a mess in the kitchen.

This.

You learn to write - or any form of communication, really - by doing it.

And as far as a "standard" goes, there is no penalty for failure.  I mean, if I was emperor, bad writing would get you dropped down a well.  But, alas, I am not an all-powerful autocrat, so people can write anything they please.


I think it was you a while back who said we must write for ourselves, not for others. That was a nugget of wisdom.

Wolfgang Absolutus

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 07, 2012, 11:41:24 PM
Quote from: Wolfgang Absolutus on February 07, 2012, 11:08:03 PM
I always feel as though If I were to write any of my ideas down one or both of two things will happen
1. Due to the drawbacks of language I won't be able to properly express my meaning and the whole thing becomes a waste.
2. Ill change my mind at some point in the future and then Ill regret writing such stupid things as they are not consistent with my present self.

...Or

3.  At some future point you will discover apostraphes, and you'll have to go back and edit it all.


FACT:  It's just spewing rants on a message board.  You are not writing for the ages.
Thanks. My grammar probably could use some work. The writing I was talking about was writing for people I know personally to read. And I would dislike having an inconsistent image.I guess I'm just being silly. I shouldn't be worried about what others will think of my writing.

Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on February 08, 2012, 12:04:28 AM
Quote from: Wolfgang Absolutus on February 07, 2012, 11:08:03 PM
2. Ill change my mind at some point in the future and then Ill regret writing such stupid things as they are not consistent with my present self.
That's called learning and there's nothing wrong with going, "oh shit, I cannot believe I said/thought that." (you learned that it was silly, which is the thing, right?)
Yeah I guess you are right. I feel like if I wrote those things down they have a certain kind of permanence. I can reflect on how I used to be but it would feel different to have that process take place outside of my head. I don't really know.
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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Charley Brown on February 08, 2012, 12:09:20 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 12:02:28 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on February 07, 2012, 11:52:34 PM
Sometimes, to me, it seems there is a perceived standard. If we think we cannot meet the standard then we simply decide to not write.

The truth is, while some can produce excellent material, not every word that is written in this sacred hall is masterful. We just tend to forget the average and concentrate on the great, which can lead to feeling unworthy to make the attempt. If you want to make a great loaf of bread you better be prepared to make a mess in the kitchen.

This.

You learn to write - or any form of communication, really - by doing it.

And as far as a "standard" goes, there is no penalty for failure.  I mean, if I was emperor, bad writing would get you dropped down a well.  But, alas, I am not an all-powerful autocrat, so people can write anything they please.


I think it was you a while back who said we must write for ourselves, not for others. That was a nugget of wisdom.

And you know me, Charley.  I'm just full of nuggets.
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- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Rev

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 01:31:29 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on February 08, 2012, 12:09:20 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 12:02:28 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on February 07, 2012, 11:52:34 PM
Sometimes, to me, it seems there is a perceived standard. If we think we cannot meet the standard then we simply decide to not write.

The truth is, while some can produce excellent material, not every word that is written in this sacred hall is masterful. We just tend to forget the average and concentrate on the great, which can lead to feeling unworthy to make the attempt. If you want to make a great loaf of bread you better be prepared to make a mess in the kitchen.

This.

You learn to write - or any form of communication, really - by doing it.

And as far as a "standard" goes, there is no penalty for failure.  I mean, if I was emperor, bad writing would get you dropped down a well.  But, alas, I am not an all-powerful autocrat, so people can write anything they please.


I think it was you a while back who said we must write for ourselves, not for others. That was a nugget of wisdom.

And you know me, Charley.  I'm just full of nuggets.

:spittake:


Dammit, now I have visions of rabbit turds...

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Op is great, articulates that particular frustration very well.
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