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Re: 10 Points to Ponder. Or Kill TGRR.
« Reply #120 on: December 20, 2011, 07:01:34 pm »
Nobody is "one small voice" around here.

People react to what's posted, whether it's you, or any of a dozen "big guns" I could name, or if it's one of the brain dead trolls we get.  

Do I post every time I see something I disagree with?  Nope.  Sometimes it's because I can't articulate an argument (which tells me I need to rethink my position), and others, it's because I can see there's not going to be changing somebody's mind.

But, agree or disagree, I try to listen... even to, maybe ESPECIALLY to, the ones I disagree with.

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Re: 10 Points to Ponder. Or Kill TGRR.
« Reply #121 on: December 20, 2011, 07:46:43 pm »
I have no problem having passionate exchanges on topics.  Lord knows I've been involved in many outside of the drug debates.  In fact, I still remember my first throw-down which was actually with LMNO.  It went on for pages and pages, and was pretty heated, but he didn't attack me personally and vice versa.  We survived and he's one of the posters I admire most on this site.  But where I do have the problem is when it gets personal and posters are attacked personally.  And I'm not just talking about me but I've seen it happen in other fights with other long-time members. 

So I think one thing we ALL can do to make things better around here is to acknowledge that we don't go THERE.  We put 110% into our opinion on whatever the topic may be but we don't go THERE and attack the person.  I think that could go a long way to making this place more conducive to information exchange and content. 

I would agree with this...

But then there are occasions where a personal attack is well deserved. The two off the top of my head are Babylon Horuv, and Triple Zero's fantastic takedown of Disco Pickle, both of which, in my opinion, richly deserve(d) what they got.

So I think overall it needs to be a bit more nuanced, and nobody should be saying 'no no personal attacks are always wrong always', but some awareness that it may be a contributing factor to the bigger problems is probably reasonable.

Yes I did, and will in the future repeatedly I am sure.

I do hope me being a shitbag doesn't meant that every time I post something it gets ignored on that basis though.  There are occasions when I have a unique perspective that is not simply wrongtarded.  That being said I think that with a few exceptions people do generally recognize those occasions when that happens.

I think the level of personal attacks that have been leveled at RWHN were out of line and detracted from the actual discussion at hand.  I doubt that is the only case of them being an obstacle to discussion but it is the one that I have noticed the most.
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Re: 10 Points to Ponder. Or Kill TGRR.
« Reply #122 on: December 20, 2011, 08:16:46 pm »
Other than this post, Babylon, I have taken up the policy of totally ignoring you. I have to really like the thread to even post if you're the last poster, because you're disgusting and bring the ick factor with you wherever you go (sorry, I'm generally all for "your kink is not my kink", but I draw the line at snuff, necrophilia, and pedophilia). Also, you say stupid shit far too often. Others have called you out on this far better than I (Nigel's response to "I used to know a teenage hooker who liked it!" for example), so I'll leave it at that.
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Re: 10 Points to Ponder. Or Kill TGRR.
« Reply #123 on: December 20, 2011, 08:30:14 pm »
Babylon, honestly, even reading your posts makes me kick myself for doing it, and I have never, ever seen you offer a "unique perspective" that was not wrongtarded. The few times I have seen you post anything that wasn't totally stupid, it has been to repeat what someone else said better a few posts prior. It is seriously hard to believe that someone as intellectually incompetent and generally repugnant as yourself can even exist, and every day I hope that you'll do something that might get you banned.
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Re: 10 Points to Ponder. Or Kill TGRR.
« Reply #124 on: December 20, 2011, 11:19:02 pm »
RWHN, in all seriousness, I wonder about your motivation for coming back.

I only left out of some weird paranoia linked to this job I've applied for.  I quickly realized that was a little wacky so I came back.  VOILA!
 
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it seems that the last few times you've returned after a flounce, you've almost immediately began rehashing the same old fights that caused you to leave in the first place. You have continued to harp on the same issues with Nigel and TGRR. And, as DS has pointed out, you haven't really made a positive contribution to this thread, and yet you feel the need to get on a soapbox and... say nothing of value. Don't get me wrong, I've got nothing against you personally, but I seriously do not understand what point you are trying to make right now.

I spoke my piece about what I see as part of the problem, if that is not of any value to you then so be it.  Maybe it isn't of value to anyone.  But I am a part of this community.  I've been a part of this community for 6+ years.  I've been an active member of this community.  So I'm going to throw my two cents out, if they are duds for the rest of you, oh well, my loss.  But, I WILL SURVIVE!!!!   :)

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For the record, I'll go ahead and say I care about Tuscon and Portland. I care about Mr. Language and the plant, because Nigel and Roger are my friends. So, if that's what they want to talk about, then I'll listen. That is separate from the mythology of Tuscon and the Dark Empress, which is probably one of the most entertaining mythologies that I've heard recently. For me at least, that hasn't gotten stale yet, and while others may disagree, I'd rather have stale stories about them than yet another rehash of the same drug debate that has evidently been going on here since the year dot.  

Well, I gather that quite a few folks around here do like that stuff.  I'm pretty sure I am in the minority.  Oh well.  
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Re: 10 Points to Ponder. Or Kill TGRR.
« Reply #125 on: December 21, 2011, 12:27:14 am »
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Re: 10 Points to Ponder. Or Kill TGRR.
« Reply #126 on: December 21, 2011, 01:02:46 am »
Well, I never took you for one who was into dry humor.

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Re: 10 Points to Ponder. Or Kill TGRR.
« Reply #127 on: December 21, 2011, 02:51:08 am »
I love dry humor
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« Reply #128 on: December 21, 2011, 05:11:47 pm »
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Re: 10 Points to Ponder. Or Kill TGRR.
« Reply #129 on: December 25, 2011, 08:08:47 am »
I'm not even sure I know what dry humour even is. Is it the sort of humour that you laugh at despite knowing it's not really funny?

Or the sort that takes you to a place where there should be funny, but isnt?
Is there an opposite type of humour, called "wet humour"?

Because that sounds like it would be funnier.
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Re: 10 Points to Ponder. Or Kill TGRR.
« Reply #130 on: December 25, 2011, 02:24:32 pm »
Dry humor is more sarcastic and deadpan and a tad bit critical. Its still funny but its more like horrormirth than safer forms of humor. Not the same thing of course but akin.
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Re: 10 Points to Ponder. Or Kill TGRR.
« Reply #131 on: December 25, 2011, 08:59:31 pm »
Dry humor is more sarcastic and deadpan and a tad bit critical. Its still funny but its more like horrormirth than safer forms of humor. Not the same thing of course but akin.

Interesting. "Dry" humour in Dutch, or saying something [humorous] "dryly", afaik just means "deadpan", possibly so much it borders on the absurd, but not necessarily sarcastic or critical.
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« Reply #132 on: December 25, 2011, 11:20:57 pm »
i always took dry humor to be humor that is funny, but doesn't say, "hey, look at me? i'm a joke!"

aside:  i fucking hate it when people start laughing at their own jokes before their even done telling them.  they are usually the only one laughing.
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« Reply #133 on: December 26, 2011, 12:22:55 am »
Just read back, and I got it. Dry humour is spilling a drink over someone, then telling them

"It's OK, just reach over there and put the dehumidifier on".

Which they do, but because of their wet fingers, they get a good jolt from the mains, then wet themselves in electric convulsions.

When they come round on the floor, you then inform them that you were "Taking the piss about the dehumidifier, but . . . . well, you obviously know that now". Then, if that person laughs, is that because of  "dry humour"?
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Re: 10 Points to Ponder. Or Kill TGRR.
« Reply #134 on: December 26, 2011, 12:48:55 am »
Read the OP, read the first page or two of comments, then skipped the rest because it's christmas and I'm low on time.

Just wanted to say two things:
First, I vote to keep the ban rules the same.  One of my favorite things about this board is that it embraces chaos right down to the rule set.  I missed whatever drama has Roger riled up this time, as my life has gotten busy as all hell lately, but I don't think anything is worth changing the rules over.

Second, and as for most of the rest of the OP, while your points do make sense, fuck you, this is discordia.  The boards get fast, slow, stop, run, and contain everything from swear words to facebook bullshit to a pictures of a duck's cock.  Sounds pretty discordian to me.  Most of the time it's pretty easy to tell from topic titles or at worst a short glance into the topic, whether or not the topic is facebookish drama or someone rant or what.  If it appears to be something you aren't interested in reading, fuckin don't.  It really is that easy.

I also think part of the slowness is the crazy amounts of time you spend here reading everything.  I can't even find the time to keep up with one single subforum let alone the entire board.   Does not look slow from where I am sitting.
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