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Re: 10 Points to Ponder. Or Kill TGRR.
« Reply #150 on: December 26, 2011, 10:52:35 am »
i always took dry humor to be humor that is funny, but doesn't say, "hey, look at me? i'm a joke!"

But isn't that pretty much exactly what "deadpan" means?

Just read back, and I got it. Dry humour is spilling a drink over someone, then telling them

"It's OK, just reach over there and put the dehumidifier on".

Which they do, but because of their wet fingers, they get a good jolt from the mains, then wet themselves in electric convulsions.

When they come round on the floor, you then inform them that you were "Taking the piss about the dehumidifier, but . . . . well, you obviously know that now". Then, if that person laughs, is that because of  "dry humour"?

Nononono, it also needs to be deadpan. So it's when the police finds the dessicated mummified corpse three weeks later.
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Re: 10 Points to Ponder. Or Kill TGRR.
« Reply #151 on: December 26, 2011, 11:26:53 am »
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Re: 10 Points to Ponder. Or Kill TGRR.
« Reply #152 on: December 26, 2011, 01:03:16 pm »
i think deadpan refers only to the delivery while dry humor could also be situational.  i.e. all deadpan is dry, but not all dry is deadpan.
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Re: 10 Points to Ponder. Or Kill TGRR.
« Reply #153 on: December 26, 2011, 02:51:39 pm »
i always took dry humor to be humor that is funny, but doesn't say, "hey, look at me? i'm a joke!"

But isn't that pretty much exactly what "deadpan" means?

Just read back, and I got it. Dry humour is spilling a drink over someone, then telling them

"It's OK, just reach over there and put the dehumidifier on".

Which they do, but because of their wet fingers, they get a good jolt from the mains, then wet themselves in electric convulsions.

When they come round on the floor, you then inform them that you were "Taking the piss about the dehumidifier, but . . . . well, you obviously know that now". Then, if that person laughs, is that because of  "dry humour"?

Nononono, it also needs to be deadpan. So it's when the police finds the dessicated mummified corpse three weeks later.
Deadpan is generally without any emotion, you can have dry humour that isn't without emotion, just as long as its not really jovial or lively.
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Re: 10 Points to Ponder. Or Kill TGRR.
« Reply #154 on: December 26, 2011, 05:10:43 pm »
Why is all this thoughtful conversation on this fucking thread?  Trix was just in here, asking for his fair share of the drama and shit, and here YOU guys are having a fucking rational conversation.

What the hell is WRONG with people these days?  I mean, aside from LMNO.  I know what's wrong with him.
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Re: 10 Points to Ponder. Or Kill TGRR.
« Reply #155 on: December 26, 2011, 05:32:08 pm »
I can see how "jovial, lively" Deadpan has the potential to jump across the divide to full on creepy Clowning. And how that's too close to fear to be actual humour.

 I've got 'dry' down now like Roger Moore as Bond, turning his head, and just raising an eyebrow when Miss Funnyfanny walks in. Dry as in needing minimal input to distinguish an (old tired, and overused) implied gag. He did it better on The Saint first anyway.

Doesn't actually have to be funny to work either. Which is pretty unusual.
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Re: 10 Points to Ponder. Or Kill TGRR.
« Reply #156 on: December 26, 2011, 07:03:56 pm »
dry humor is that old-timey, witty wordplay humor.  I instantly think of someone like Groucho, or an Abbot and Costello routine.  It's not sight-gags, or potty humor.  It tickles your brain.  It sometimes takes a little extra effort to "get", as opposed to seeing Jim Carey make stupid faces.  That is easy to "get", but is much less fulfilling, in my opinion. 

Punnery is often a form of dry humor, thought not always. 
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Re: 10 Points to Ponder. Or Kill TGRR.
« Reply #157 on: December 26, 2011, 07:37:52 pm »
I pondered punnery, but perceived it's predilection for a preposterously posed premise, to be perturbing, perverse, and ponderously predictable. 
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Re: 10 Points to Ponder. Or Kill TGRR.
« Reply #158 on: December 26, 2011, 08:10:55 pm »
I queried the quote, the quip, and the question, but kwudn't kwite quasp the quoncept . . .
"We need a plane for Bombing, Strafing, Assault and Battery, Interception, Ground Support, and Reconaissance,
NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

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Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

"And when the clouds obscure the moon, and normal service is resumed. It wont. Mean. A. Thing"
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Re: 10 Points to Ponder. Or Kill TGRR.
« Reply #159 on: December 26, 2011, 09:56:18 pm »
I queried the quote, the quip, and the question, but kwudn't kwite quasp the quoncept . . .

Shouldn't stretch the syllables so, it's a sucky surrendor showing your struggle to say sentances somewhat strung together.

Reminds me of that beginning part of "V for Vendetta" when V first met Evey.
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Re: 10 Points to Ponder. Or Kill TGRR.
« Reply #160 on: December 26, 2011, 11:20:03 pm »
I queried the quote, the quip, and the question, but kwudn't kwite quasp the quoncept . . .

Shouldn't stretch the syllables so, it's a sucky surrendor showing your struggle to say sentances somewhat strung together.

Reminds me of that beginning part of "V for Vendetta" when V first met Evey.
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Distended vowels eh? Then instead of vowels I shall stretch the premise of your critique a little, and wholeheartedly agree with your observation that my writing is indeed, on a par with Moore's. (Thanks again) And furthermore, that gives me full mandate to stretch beyond recognition any vowels I choose.   
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NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

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Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

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Re: 10 Points to Ponder. Or Kill TGRR.
« Reply #161 on: December 27, 2011, 01:25:00 am »
dry humor is that old-timey, witty wordplay humor.  I instantly think of someone like Groucho, or an Abbot and Costello routine.  It's not sight-gags, or potty humor.  It tickles your brain.  It sometimes takes a little extra effort to "get", as opposed to seeing Jim Carey make stupid faces.  That is easy to "get", but is much less fulfilling, in my opinion. 

Punnery is often a form of dry humor, thought not always. 
I disagree with this tiny bit, I've made some people laugh their ass off by deadpanly pointing out sight-gags. And as has already been established:
i think deadpan refers only to the delivery while dry humor could also be situational.  i.e. all deadpan is dry, but not all dry is deadpan.
Punnery often has a deadpan-esque delivery but doing it completely deadpan would take a great deal of fun out of it. It's the twinkle in the eye of the punner that triggers the attention puns need to become truly side-splitting. An unconsidered pun misses its point   It is the 'did he really? no ho wouldn't... aw fuck he did' thought that elicits the groan.
Dry humour to me is strenghtening the element of surprise by making a joke in a way that does not sound like it's a joke but judging from its contents could not be anything else.
This includes all deadpan jokes(including externally caused sight-gags if done deadpan),
puns if the victim thinks fast enough to surprise himself by translating the pun before knowing/realizing what it will be,
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Re: 10 Points to Ponder. Or Kill TGRR.
« Reply #162 on: December 27, 2011, 02:48:12 am »
I queried the quote, the quip, and the question, but kwudn't kwite quasp the quoncept . . .

Shouldn't stretch the syllables so, it's a sucky surrendor showing your struggle to say sentances somewhat strung together.

Reminds me of that beginning part of "V for Vendetta" when V first met Evey.

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Re: 10 Points to Ponder. Or Kill TGRR.
« Reply #163 on: December 27, 2011, 10:18:31 am »
I queried the quote, the quip, and the question, but kwudn't kwite quasp the quoncept . . .

Shouldn't stretch the syllables so, it's a sucky surrendor showing your struggle to say sentances somewhat strung together.

Reminds me of that beginning part of "V for Vendetta" when V first met Evey.
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Re: 10 Points to Ponder. Or Kill TGRR.
« Reply #164 on: December 27, 2011, 11:34:14 am »
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