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Started by DECI4, December 20, 2011, 08:55:34 AM

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Luna

You should've seen my face at Disney World when I hit Splash Mountain and realized that one of their most popular rides is based on a film that Disney won't release or show any more.
Death-dealing hormone freak of deliciousness
Pagan-Stomping Valkyrie of the Interbutts™
Rampaging Slayer of Shit-Fountain Habitues

"My father says that almost the whole world is asleep. Everybody you know, everybody you see, everybody you talk to. He says that only a few people are awake, and they live in a state of constant, total amazement."

Quote from: The Payne on November 16, 2011, 07:08:55 PM
If Luna was a furry, she'd sex humans and scream "BEASTIALITY!" at the top of her lungs at inopportune times.

Quote from: Nigel on March 24, 2011, 01:54:48 AM
I like the Luna one. She is a good one.

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"Stop talking to yourself.  You don't like you any better than anyone else who knows you."

BadBeast

"We need a plane for Bombing, Strafing, Assault and Battery, Interception, Ground Support, and Reconaissance,
NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

"I kinda like him. It's like he sees inside my soul" ~ Nigel


Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

"And when the clouds obscure the moon, and normal service is resumed. It wont. Mean. A. Thing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkCJDYxH-4

LMNO

I liked two kinds of Loony Tunes:  Ones where ther was a lot of clever fast-talking banter (I still have a soft spot for the screball comedies of the 1940s (His Girl Friday, for example (I figure that's why I like 30 Rock so much)), or anything directed by Chuck Jones.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Doktor Zero on December 22, 2011, 04:54:24 AM
Quote from: Science me, babby on December 22, 2011, 04:03:30 AM
Quote from: Doktor Zero on December 22, 2011, 03:38:06 AM
Quote from: Science me, babby on December 22, 2011, 03:31:34 AM
Quote from: Doktor Zero on December 22, 2011, 03:14:55 AM

I remember that article. And... well, NONE OF THE BLATANTLY RACIST CRAP IN IT WAS TRUE. 
:facepalm:

The racist presentations of non-whites, or what the article pointed out?

Also, they had a point in that the crows of Dumbo were pretty progressive, since they (the crows) weren't the bad guys.  But FFS, "Jim Crow"?  And no one replying on FB saw a problem?

:x
The presentations. "What makes the redman red?" SERIOUSLY DISNEY? SERIOUSLY?

:facepalm:

SQUAW NO DANCEUM, SQUAW GET FIREWOOD.
Also of note on that list, King Louie. King... Motha... Fuggin'... Louie. The article did accurately point out, if I recall, that Rudyard Kipling might not have er... objected to the subtle symbolism there....

Kipling wasn't a racist.  He spoke using the language of the time, but anyone who has read "Fuzzy Wuzzy" or "Gunga Din" can tell that he didn't view other races as inferior, and the poem "The White Man's Burden" is the supreme satire on people who thought that other races "needed our help".
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

BadBeast

Good call this one. I'm sick of people who pick over esp Kipling, and say stupid shit about how 'racist' it is.
Kipling was one of the finest writers ever, and epitomises everything that was truly Great about the Empire. The Man who would be King. Or Her Majesties Servants. Toomai,  Rikki Tikki Tavi,  and those Just so ones for kids. Brilliant.
Sadly, his own son was one of the last casualties od WWI.
"Minutes to go" kinda last, too I think. Bummer.
"We need a plane for Bombing, Strafing, Assault and Battery, Interception, Ground Support, and Reconaissance,
NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

"I kinda like him. It's like he sees inside my soul" ~ Nigel


Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

"And when the clouds obscure the moon, and normal service is resumed. It wont. Mean. A. Thing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkCJDYxH-4

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 22, 2011, 03:12:56 PM
Quote from: Doktor Zero on December 22, 2011, 04:54:24 AM
Quote from: Science me, babby on December 22, 2011, 04:03:30 AM
Quote from: Doktor Zero on December 22, 2011, 03:38:06 AM
Quote from: Science me, babby on December 22, 2011, 03:31:34 AM
Quote from: Doktor Zero on December 22, 2011, 03:14:55 AM

I remember that article. And... well, NONE OF THE BLATANTLY RACIST CRAP IN IT WAS TRUE. 
:facepalm:

The racist presentations of non-whites, or what the article pointed out?

Also, they had a point in that the crows of Dumbo were pretty progressive, since they (the crows) weren't the bad guys.  But FFS, "Jim Crow"?  And no one replying on FB saw a problem?

:x
The presentations. "What makes the redman red?" SERIOUSLY DISNEY? SERIOUSLY?

:facepalm:

SQUAW NO DANCEUM, SQUAW GET FIREWOOD.
Also of note on that list, King Louie. King... Motha... Fuggin'... Louie. The article did accurately point out, if I recall, that Rudyard Kipling might not have er... objected to the subtle symbolism there....

Kipling wasn't a racist.  He spoke using the language of the time, but anyone who has read "Fuzzy Wuzzy" or "Gunga Din" can tell that he didn't view other races as inferior, and the poem "The White Man's Burden" is the supreme satire on people who thought that other races "needed our help".

Yep.

I have serious problems with the retards who have decided that because Twain and Kipling used certain words, they were racist, when any 12-year-old assfuck with an ounce of reading comprehension can easily see that they were objecting to the racist status quo they lived in.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on December 22, 2011, 01:46:46 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 22, 2011, 01:41:17 AM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on December 22, 2011, 01:22:43 AM
Oh jesus, I forgot how casually racist these things are!

They're also from more than half a century ago, when everything was casually racist.


I'm perfectly aware of that. It still makes me gawk a little.

It's kind of amazing, isn't it? Like any good cartoon, they don't promote a viewpoint, they just reflect society. You can rest assured that the black little girls and boys were aware of it, and it was a topic of conversation in black homes.

A point which is often overlooked in discussions of culturally-ingrained racism.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: BadBeast on December 22, 2011, 04:00:30 PM
Good call this one. I'm sick of people who pick over esp Kipling, and say stupid shit about how 'racist' it is.
Kipling was one of the finest writers ever, and epitomises everything that was truly Great about the Empire. The Man who would be King. Or Her Majesties Servants. Toomai,  Rikki Tikki Tavi,  and those Just so ones for kids. Brilliant.
Sadly, his own son was one of the last casualties od WWI.
"Minutes to go" kinda last, too I think. Bummer.

"When our children ask why they died, tell them that their fathers lied."
- Rudyard Kipling

Kipling was, to be perfectly frank, the absolute harshest critic of his times...and ours.  Read the poem "Cleared", and compare it to today's governmental behavior.

My favorite verse from that poem is

Cleared! Honorable gentlemen, Be thankful it's no more,
The widow's curse is on your house, the dead are at your door,
On you the shame of open shame, on you from North and South,
The hand of every honest man flat-heeled across your mouth."


and the last line:

We are not ruled by murderers...But only by their friends.

He was talking about the actions of the British government's hired lackeys in Ireland, but he could have been talking about Blackwater.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Luna

Death-dealing hormone freak of deliciousness
Pagan-Stomping Valkyrie of the Interbutts™
Rampaging Slayer of Shit-Fountain Habitues

"My father says that almost the whole world is asleep. Everybody you know, everybody you see, everybody you talk to. He says that only a few people are awake, and they live in a state of constant, total amazement."

Quote from: The Payne on November 16, 2011, 07:08:55 PM
If Luna was a furry, she'd sex humans and scream "BEASTIALITY!" at the top of her lungs at inopportune times.

Quote from: Nigel on March 24, 2011, 01:54:48 AM
I like the Luna one. She is a good one.

Quote
"Stop talking to yourself.  You don't like you any better than anyone else who knows you."

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Nigel on December 22, 2011, 04:22:46 PM
Yep.

I have serious problems with the retards who have decided that because Twain and Kipling used certain words, they were racist, when any 12-year-old assfuck with an ounce of reading comprehension can easily see that they were objecting to the racist status quo they lived in.

Although I hate the jargon, this is a classic example of mistaking the map for the territory.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

I was teethed on Kipling, from the very first time I could read... for my tenth birthday I received an AMAZING antique leather-bound copy of The Jungle Book (and stories) with gold edges and swastikas from an era when swastikas just meant the cycle of life. I still have it. This after an era when my parents were actively involved with the Black Panthers (I know, makes little sense on my mom's side) and to this day I have to hear my dad tell stories about not being allowed to drink from public water fountains.

My dad who has a grad degree in childhood development and education.

I don't think Kipling and Twain would have been given to me if they were racist. The word "nigger" only hurts when you think the person it represents is lower than you, a fact that Twain illustrated beautifully. The most difficulty I had in his writings was with the nastiness of Injun Joe, which took me many years to reconcile before I understood that his purpose in the story was to illustrate the evils of pure disenfranchisement: Injun Joe was the quintessential unwanted child. This is also connected with the statistical drop in crime due to legalized abortion.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 22, 2011, 04:39:10 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 22, 2011, 04:22:46 PM
Yep.

I have serious problems with the retards who have decided that because Twain and Kipling used certain words, they were racist, when any 12-year-old assfuck with an ounce of reading comprehension can easily see that they were objecting to the racist status quo they lived in.

Although I hate the jargon, this is a classic example of mistaking the map for the territory.

Yep yep. And when you dig deeper into the jargon, you start to discover that we euphemize things we are uncomfortable with... so derogatory terms evolve. Remember when we were kids, when the prevailing politically correct term was "Negro"? And how, oddly, just ten or so years later, that became an uncomfortable term to use? And then it was "Black". And then it was "African American".

People feel the need to shift terms when they are uncomfortable with what that term describes.

If the majority was comfortable with black people, we would still be called "niggers" and no one would care.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#117
For the record, the fact that I even identify as black is a matter of deeply-entrenched American racism.

My DAUGHTER identifies as black. We are talking about some serious one-drop-rule bullshit here.

I am legally black though. She is not. I don't even know how to feel about that.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Nigel on December 22, 2011, 04:48:39 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 22, 2011, 04:39:10 PM
Quote from: Nigel on December 22, 2011, 04:22:46 PM
Yep.

I have serious problems with the retards who have decided that because Twain and Kipling used certain words, they were racist, when any 12-year-old assfuck with an ounce of reading comprehension can easily see that they were objecting to the racist status quo they lived in.

Although I hate the jargon, this is a classic example of mistaking the map for the territory.

Yep yep. And when you dig deeper into the jargon, you start to discover that we euphemize things we are uncomfortable with... so derogatory terms evolve. Remember when we were kids, when the prevailing politically correct term was "Negro"? And how, oddly, just ten or so years later, that became an uncomfortable term to use? And then it was "Black". And then it was "African American".

People feel the need to shift terms when they are uncomfortable with what that term describes.

If the majority was comfortable with black people, we would still be called "niggers" and no one would care.

I meant the BIP jargon, but you are correct.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Nigel on December 22, 2011, 04:50:07 PM
For the record, the fact that I even identify as black is a matter of deeply-entrenched American racism.

When I hear some teabagger moron talking about Obama as being "only half-Black", I ask them if he would have been able to marry a White woman in 1965.  I get a look of uncomprehending disgust in return.

Then I go about my business, happily vindicated in my low opinion of my species.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.