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Just smart enough to be into Monty Python

Started by Mesozoic Mister Nigel, December 21, 2011, 05:03:17 AM

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Suu

My brother and I got stoned last night and did some woody and tinny words.

CARIBOU...

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNEEEEEEEEEE...

My sister wanted to kill us.  


...I probably shouldn't announce that.  :kingmeh:

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"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

LMNO

Speaking of quoting someone else's funny...


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 21, 2011, 01:25:59 PM
Speaking of quoting someone else's funny...



Now THAT

Is exactly what I'm talking about! People who endlessly quote Monty Python seem to me to be pretty much the same thing as people who endlessly repeat jokes out of the PD... smart enough to know it's funny, but not actually quite smart enough to actually get the joke.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on December 21, 2011, 09:46:18 AM
We made a consensus decision to stop doing it at college it was funny for about a week and annoying thereafter. Quoting anything is fine in moderation. Like someone says something and you hit them with an obscure movie reference that they just might get. It's a bonding thing. It's a pop quiz but once in a blue moon is more than enough.

What's worse in my mind isn't quoting python or pop culture it's quoting highbrow shit like Keats or Tennyson. Those fuckers are invariably ten or fifteen times more annoying to me than python or star wars nerds.

The "highbrow" quoters are exactly the kind of people who would be named after a color, a religion, a season, and a bird.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Beardman Meow on December 21, 2011, 11:05:34 AM
Quote from: My Lady is a Cantaloupe on December 21, 2011, 11:00:47 AM
Yes, it is elitist.

In this fucked up world, I think it's a great thing that anyone can find solace and joy in humor even if it doesn't measure up to someone else's standards. 
Yeah, I think it's elitist and I think "good on them for enjoying themselves".

But I also think "I would have a hard time not getting upset at repeated Monty Python jokes, as I would have a hard time not getting upset by the people Xooxe describes". I never know whether to discourage my own elitism or just let it be.

Of course by upset I mean "righteously indignant and snarky".

My feeling on it is "good on them for enjoying themselves" in exactly the same way I feel about retarded people masturbating; I don't have a problem with it on principle, I just don't want them doing it anywhere near me.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Luna on December 21, 2011, 01:09:41 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 21, 2011, 12:54:10 PM
1. I'd rather hear rehashed MP than someone stuck in Beavis and Butthead mode. heh-heh-heh.  He said "mode".

Oh, god, yes.  That shit will make want to kick an idiot in the taint.

And moving from bit to bit, especially the obscure stuff, is a hell of a lot funnier than sticking with the same gag, over and over.

I feel similarly about people who endlessly quote the Simpsons... the thing is, Monty Python and the Simpsons are both funny. At times fucking hilarious. But constantly quoting someone else's surrealist funniness just seems like missing the point. Obscure or not.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: My Lady is a Cantaloupe on December 21, 2011, 01:12:56 PM
Another take on this, I think, is that there is a chance to engage.  So you have some knucklehead rattling off a bunch of stale MP jokes, so, maybe a tactic is to redirect the conversation.  So why does this guy like MP so much?  What does he/she think the jokes mean?  Why does he/she think they are funny?  Why do they relate to the jokes?

Perhaps there is more to this person than we realize, but they are just waiting for someone to help them go to a deeper level. 

Maybe I should become an evangelist and go to furry conventions.

On the other hand, gross.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Beardman Meow on December 21, 2011, 05:10:06 AM
What are they not smart/independent/jailbroken enough for?

To not mindlessly repeat humor that was based on unpredictable behavior and lines?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Scribbly

Quote from: Nigel on December 21, 2011, 01:58:30 PM
Quote from: Beardman Meow on December 21, 2011, 11:05:34 AM
Quote from: My Lady is a Cantaloupe on December 21, 2011, 11:00:47 AM
Yes, it is elitist.

In this fucked up world, I think it's a great thing that anyone can find solace and joy in humor even if it doesn't measure up to someone else's standards. 
Yeah, I think it's elitist and I think "good on them for enjoying themselves".

But I also think "I would have a hard time not getting upset at repeated Monty Python jokes, as I would have a hard time not getting upset by the people Xooxe describes". I never know whether to discourage my own elitism or just let it be.

Of course by upset I mean "righteously indignant and snarky".

My feeling on it is "good on them for enjoying themselves" in exactly the same way I feel about retarded people masturbating; I don't have a problem with it on principle, I just don't want them doing it anywhere near me.

:spittake:

God damnit I got coke all over my laptop and now my coworkers are looking at me funny.
I had an existential crisis and all I got was this stupid gender.

AFK

I dunno, I guess unless I knew the person I wouldn't read too much into it.  We all have things we really like and enjoy.  I'm not sure that this really speaks as a detriment to a person's character, not on its own anyway. 

I mean, my daughter for a time was really into Justin Bieber, and would sing Justin Bieber songs.  Now, this is a very smart little girl who also is really into and really good at art. 

I guess what I'm saying is that I'm not sure that being into a kind of mindless entertainment is necessarily indicative of the quality of one's mind, again, without knowing more about the person. 

Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: My Lady is a Cantaloupe on December 21, 2011, 02:15:06 PM
I dunno, I guess unless I knew the person I wouldn't read too much into it.  We all have things we really like and enjoy.  I'm not sure that this really speaks as a detriment to a person's character, not on its own anyway. 

I mean, my daughter for a time was really into Justin Bieber, and would sing Justin Bieber songs.  Now, this is a very smart little girl who also is really into and really good at art. 

I guess what I'm saying is that I'm not sure that being into a kind of mindless entertainment is necessarily indicative of the quality of one's mind, again, without knowing more about the person. 



I am not sure it is completely fair to compare a four-year-old with grown adults, but OK.

On the other hand, maybe it is completely fair to compare a four-year-old with people who constantly quote Monty Python. Hmmmm.

All I know is that frequent Monty Python quotes, in and of themselves,  are enough to let me know that I don't want to know more about the person. Unless they are four years old, in which case, I'ma cut them some slack.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Suu on December 21, 2011, 01:15:17 PM
My brother and I got stoned last night and did some woody and tinny words.

CARIBOU...

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNEEEEEEEEEE...

My sister wanted to kill us.  


...I probably shouldn't announce that.  :kingmeh:



But you just did.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

AFK

Quote from: Nigel on December 21, 2011, 02:18:38 PM
Quote from: My Lady is a Cantaloupe on December 21, 2011, 02:15:06 PM
I dunno, I guess unless I knew the person I wouldn't read too much into it.  We all have things we really like and enjoy.  I'm not sure that this really speaks as a detriment to a person's character, not on its own anyway. 

I mean, my daughter for a time was really into Justin Bieber, and would sing Justin Bieber songs.  Now, this is a very smart little girl who also is really into and really good at art. 

I guess what I'm saying is that I'm not sure that being into a kind of mindless entertainment is necessarily indicative of the quality of one's mind, again, without knowing more about the person. 



I am not sure it is completely fair to compare a four-year-old with grown adults, but OK.

On the other hand, maybe it is completely fair to compare a four-year-old with people who constantly quote Monty Python. Hmmmm.

All I know is that frequent Monty Python quotes, in and of themselves,  are enough to let me know that I don't want to know more about the person. Unless they are four years old, in which case, I'ma cut them some slack.

Okay, change it to a 23 year old who really likes The Office.  So what?  Your question was about using this as a method for judging a person's intelligence.  What I'm saying is that I don't think it is an accurate, nor fair, test.  I mean, this board has gone through phases where internet memes were repeated ad nauseum.  Does that make us a bunch of dullards?  Of course not.

All I'm saying is that I don't think it is a fair assessment in and of itself without knowing more about a person.  They could be stuck.  They could just really, really like Monty Python.  Who knows? 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Elder Iptuous

ahahah.
so, after i mentioned mitch hedberg, and freeky quoted him, i pulled up his wikiquote page, cause it's a decent way to blow a few minutes.  i clicked on his wikipedia article, cause i forgot how he died precisesly.  in the opening paragraph it says that he gained a cult following that would sometimes call out the punchline to his joke from the audience before he did!
that thar is the worst manifestation of this particular malady, i think.

Maybe MP, despite what they've said, actually focused their marketing here in the states so as to avoid the possibility of that.  It would seem wise, if you are going to base a humor career on non sequitur to build your cult in a foreign country...