Uncomfortable topics: Let's talk about race

[trippinprincezz13]

I took the one for associations of weapons with black people vs white people earlier today.

I automatically want to fault the way the test works, since it "trains" you in the first round to use the same key for "weapons" as for "black american", and then it switches it in a later round. But maybe I'm just offended by myself.

This, and to an extent I wanted to fault repetition/brain laziness (i.e, Left 5x, then RIGHT, except I just kept left). But again, that could just be excuses, excuses.

I don't I've ever acted consciously racist, or at least I certainly try not to. There's a fair amount of it, though not horribly rampant, in this general area, more-so against Latinos than African Americans. And while I don't think that I act consciously racist, since I've been on this board, I know I've made more conscious efforts not to act unconsciously racist (body language, etc.), as it probably hadn't much occurred to me before that I may be doing that.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

America_(TM) has a million ways of sneaking it in, grinding it into your head. You have to look for it and root it out, more often than not. 

Fucked up thought comes up, pay attention and counter the shit. Happens to all of us sometimes.

[Ben Shapiro]

I raged on the name, and family one.

[P3nT4gR4m]

There's only one race worth hating - humans. Any attempt to narrow it down just leaves me feeling unsatisfied. Like only eating the lettuce on my favorite cheeseburger. 

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

There's only one race worth hating - humans. Any attempt to narrow it down just leaves me feeling unsatisfied. Like only eating the lettuce on my favorite cheeseburger.

Sometimes you annoy me, but usually you tickle me.

[Pæs]

Man will always have a penchant for labelling, compartmentalizing, and stuffing away into dark little corners the undesirables.  Whether it be done with labels of race, sexual orientation, land or origin, political ideology, physical disability, mental disability, etc., etc., 

Rog has it right.  It's all about making that tucking away of undesirables, well, undesirable.  It's tough though and has its ups and downs, as exhibited by the Islamaphobia that has been all the rage since 2001.

SORRY WHAT I MEANT TO SAY WAS FUCKING KILL THOSE MONSTERS AND DON'T YOU DARE PUBLISH ANYTHING WHICH SUGGESTS THEY DON'T ALL HAVE BEARDS AND TURBANS.

[Count Chocula]

SORRY WHAT I MEANT TO SAY WAS FUCKING KILL THOSE MONSTERS AND DON'T YOU DARE PUBLISH ANYTHING WHICH SUGGESTS THEY DON'T ALL HAVE BEARDS AND TURBANS.

Finally, a well formed thought. I was really starting to get worried about this shithole.

*TUMBLEWEEDS*

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I know this is probably fucked in the head, but Delcon is starting to grow on me. I think he might be my favorite troll.

[Triple Zero]

Yeah, he's talking about the Harvard implicit association tests I linked to in another thread; very worth checking out, if only for some self-insight.

https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/demo/

I've never seen anyone take one and not be mad afterwards.

I'm biased against white people and prefer light-skinned brown people over dark-skinned brown people, FWIW. Almost all of us carry prejudices we aren't conscious of, it's what we do with them when we know about them that's important.

Wow, very cool test! I took the dark/light skinned test, since that's what this thread is about.

Apparently it suggests I have "a slight automatic preference for Light Skin compared to Dark Skin".

It's weird because initially/intuitively I felt like the order of the images influenced the outcome, but in fact the more I think back about what really happened, the more I realize it did indeed feel easier to correctly classify the words/faces when positive words were under the same key as light-skinned faces. The only other factor I can think of was maybe that the second time around I was also a bit more practiced in doing the task, and I never feel comfortable doing these kinds of timed tests. But then, at the end they said something about correcting for such biases.

I'm fairly sure that short drops in my focus/attention caused the most actual errors (got ADD, after all).  But, if I understand correctly it's not so much about the errors you make, but also about the timing, and I'm pretty sure it felt like I could do the second test much faster.

So yeah I guess it really is easier for me to classify positive words if they're under the same key as light skinned people, than vice versa.

Though the test said it was only "slight". I'm not really sure what to make of this outcome, I'll have to give it some time and see what my brain makes of it I guess I'll end up trying to slightly adjust for this bias or something (but only "slight" since that's what the test said :P). And only in the positive direction of course. I usually don't have to make many snap judgements this quickly, though.

Very cool test, anyway. I might make a few of the others as well, when I get the time.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Yeah, he's talking about the Harvard implicit association tests I linked to in another thread; very worth checking out, if only for some self-insight.

https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/demo/

I've never seen anyone take one and not be mad afterwards.

I'm biased against white people and prefer light-skinned brown people over dark-skinned brown people, FWIW. Almost all of us carry prejudices we aren't conscious of, it's what we do with them when we know about them that's important.

Wow, very cool test! I took the dark/light skinned test, since that's what this thread is about.

Apparently it suggests I have "a slight automatic preference for Light Skin compared to Dark Skin".

It's weird because initially/intuitively I felt like the order of the images influenced the outcome, but in fact the more I think back about what really happened, the more I realize it did indeed feel easier to correctly classify the words/faces when positive words were under the same key as light-skinned faces. The only other factor I can think of was maybe that the second time around I was also a bit more practiced in doing the task, and I never feel comfortable doing these kinds of timed tests. But then, at the end they said something about correcting for such biases.

I'm fairly sure that short drops in my focus/attention caused the most actual errors (got ADD, after all).  But, if I understand correctly it's not so much about the errors you make, but also about the timing, and I'm pretty sure it felt like I could do the second test much faster.

So yeah I guess it really is easier for me to classify positive words if they're under the same key as light skinned people, than vice versa.

Though the test said it was only "slight". I'm not really sure what to make of this outcome, I'll have to give it some time and see what my brain makes of it I guess I'll end up trying to slightly adjust for this bias or something (but only "slight" since that's what the test said :P). And only in the positive direction of course. I usually don't have to make many snap judgements this quickly, though.

Very cool test, anyway. I might make a few of the others as well, when I get the time.

I definitely recommend taking several others, I found the results really interesting.

[Q. G. Pennyworth]

I took the religion one today. Everything was near neutral, Buddhism slightly positive and (to my dismay) Islam slightly negative, with Christianity and Judaism square in the middle. 

[Cardinal Pizza Deliverance.]

Yeah, he's talking about the Harvard implicit association tests I linked to in another thread; very worth checking out, if only for some self-insight.

https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/demo/

I've never seen anyone take one and not be mad afterwards.

I'm biased against white people and prefer light-skinned brown people over dark-skinned brown people, FWIW. Almost all of us carry prejudices we aren't conscious of, it's what we do with them when we know about them that's important.

Wow, very cool test! I took the dark/light skinned test, since that's what this thread is about.

Apparently it suggests I have "a slight automatic preference for Light Skin compared to Dark Skin".

It's weird because initially/intuitively I felt like the order of the images influenced the outcome, but in fact the more I think back about what really happened, the more I realize it did indeed feel easier to correctly classify the words/faces when positive words were under the same key as light-skinned faces. The only other factor I can think of was maybe that the second time around I was also a bit more practiced in doing the task, and I never feel comfortable doing these kinds of timed tests. But then, at the end they said something about correcting for such biases.

I'm fairly sure that short drops in my focus/attention caused the most actual errors (got ADD, after all).  But, if I understand correctly it's not so much about the errors you make, but also about the timing, and I'm pretty sure it felt like I could do the second test much faster.

So yeah I guess it really is easier for me to classify positive words if they're under the same key as light skinned people, than vice versa.

Though the test said it was only "slight". I'm not really sure what to make of this outcome, I'll have to give it some time and see what my brain makes of it I guess I'll end up trying to slightly adjust for this bias or something (but only "slight" since that's what the test said :P). And only in the positive direction of course. I usually don't have to make many snap judgements this quickly, though.

Very cool test, anyway. I might make a few of the others as well, when I get the time.

I just saw this. Took the fat/thin test and the gay/straight test. So far the results match my previous inclinations. Strongly prefer fat to thin and slightly prefer gay to straight. Hasn't pissed me off yet but I haven't done the skin color one yet. Gotta stop because headache/puke from screen staring.

[tyrannosaurus vex]

My data suggest little to no automatic preference between African American children and European American children.

That test tried to trick me.