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NH anti-evolution bill even more bizarre then I thought
« on: January 12, 2012, 04:14:41 pm »

I was digging around reading about it, and most of it was standard it's-just-a-theory-damn-it and the-columbine-shooters-believed-in-evolution. You know standard stuff. And I came across this weirdness

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-zimmerman/creationism-in-new-hampshire_b_1177163.html

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As ridiculous as all of this is, it doesn't compare to the looniness that defines the second anti-evolution bill. This one, introduced by Republican Jerry Bergevin, also demands that evolution be taught as a theory (as if there's any other way to teach it), but it goes much further. It would require that public school science classes be dramatically expanded to explicitly include politics and religion. Bizarrely, Bergevin demands that students be taught about the personal opinions, opinions unrelated to science, of the scientists, from Darwin to the present, who are responsible for the theory of evolution. Just so you know I'm not making this stuff up, here's what the bill requires students learn: "the theorists' political and ideological viewpoints and their position on the concept of atheism"

Isn't this the same kind of "Your opinions on science determines your ideological and religious opinions" arguments that some of the more crazy atheists use? Wonder who picked it up from who.
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Re: NH anti-evolution bill even more bizarre then I thought
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2012, 05:30:55 pm »
New Hampshire's an odd state. I can't really make sense of the people that live there.

At any rate, that's ridiculous. It's a freakin science class. I don't know what's so hard to accept about evolution, even the Catholic Church accepts it as fact.
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Re: NH anti-evolution bill even more bizarre then I thought
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2012, 05:34:04 pm »
Fuck it.

500 hundred years of rationalism hasn't made the species smarter.  Let 'em wallow in their beliefs. 
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Re: NH anti-evolution bill even more bizarre then I thought
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2012, 06:36:07 pm »
Fuck it.

500 hundred years of rationalism hasn't made the species smarter.  Let 'em wallow in their beliefs.

When someone decides to be an ignorant dumbfuck, more power to 'em.  I do, however, object to spoonfeeding stupid to a captive audience of kids.  Bad enough they've stopped teaching them to think, but clogging their brains like this is nasty.
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Re: NH anti-evolution bill even more bizarre then I thought
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2012, 06:43:56 pm »
New Hampshire's an odd state. I can't really make sense of the people that live there.

At any rate, that's ridiculous. It's a freakin science class. I don't know what's so hard to accept about evolution, even the Catholic Church accepts it as fact.

I think for people like bergevin science and religion are so intermixed he can't even imagine a world were science isn't directly related to atheism and opposed to his one world view. I don't think he sees evolution as something that even falls in the realms of facts, let alone a scientific theory. Cause if he accepts science as way of investigation then there can't be just one world view that encompasses all aspects of life. Which excludes his world view.

or is just trying to keep the monkeys stupid as to maintain social control.
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Re: NH anti-evolution bill even more bizarre then I thought
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2012, 11:53:14 pm »
Fuck it.

500 hundred years of rationalism hasn't made the species smarter.  Let 'em wallow in their beliefs.

When someone decides to be an ignorant dumbfuck, more power to 'em.  I do, however, object to spoonfeeding stupid to a captive audience of kids.  Bad enough they've stopped teaching them to think, but clogging their brains like this is nasty.

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Re: NH anti-evolution bill even more bizarre then I thought
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2012, 02:15:28 pm »
That's from New Hampshire? weird. My impression of them is that they're fiscal conservatives, not social conservatives. New Hampshire is the second least religious state in the union. The average NH republican is more pro-choice than the national average. So I doubt it'll pass.

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Re: NH anti-evolution bill even more bizarre then I thought
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2012, 02:16:18 pm »
That's from New Hampshire? weird. My impression of them is that they're fiscal conservatives, not social conservatives. New Hampshire is the second least religious state in the union. The average NH republican is more pro-choice than the national average. So I doubt it'll pass.

Every state has its yahoo congressmen.

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Re: NH anti-evolution bill even more bizarre then I thought
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2012, 11:41:25 pm »
That's from New Hampshire? weird. My impression of them is that they're fiscal conservatives, not social conservatives. New Hampshire is the second least religious state in the union. The average NH republican is more pro-choice than the national average. So I doubt it'll pass.
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