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Started by Danjanon, February 07, 2012, 02:04:52 PM

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Triple Zero on February 10, 2012, 11:05:03 PM
Nigel, good point. I was just thinking because I assume historically it's always been religious (either catholic or protestant, over here).

Iptuous, yeah, I only dug into the specifics on the Dutch Wikipedia today (never really had any reason to find out before) and I must say I'm pleasantly surprised with our laws indeed. Even though the specifics are complex as fuck, but then, a non-registered partnership break up after several years of living together is complex as fuck as well, unless you've been smart about it (which we thankfully were: not sharing the bills for big household purchases but considering if we were to break up, not that we will--except we did--who would want to own this, and then making sure it mostly sort of evens out).

You've got to keep in mind that historically speaking, marriage has existed in some form in every culture on every continent, in every religion. It has coexisted with religion, which also exists in every culture, but it is not inherently religious. Some cultures treated marriage as an irrevocable life-bond, some have treated it like a form of ownership, some have treated it as a temporary arrangement, but in all cultures, the one thing marriage has in common is that it is a way of announcing to the community that two (or more) people have decided to form a family unit, and that they wish to be henceforth treated as a family unit by the community.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Danjanon on February 11, 2012, 12:03:36 AM
By the time we get to the wedding in Australia the bride and groom will have already had two weddings, one legal and one Hindu. In Singapore everyone is required to have the court wedding for legal purposes before their religious ceremony. Personally I think it should work that way everywhere, keeps things clear and separate.

The marriage is the contract; the wedding, really, is the announcement of the contract to the community. In the States, it's customary to sign the contract in front of the wedding guests, but not all couples do, and in fact one of the couples I officiated the weeding of didn't do the legal marriage for a couple of years after their ceremony, for some financial reason.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 11, 2012, 12:13:56 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 10, 2012, 10:49:52 PM
This Freedom(TM) sounds intriguing, would you recommend it for savages such as like my people?

Certainly.  I'm all about educating the heathen. 

FreedomTM is all about doing whatever you like, as long as whatever YOU like is the same as what WE like.  You can't have FreedomTM if people run around all unregulated, after all.  That's not safe.  And you can't be FreeTM if you aren't safe, because smudgy people and socialists will come and take your stuff.  And maybe even raise your taxes.  And then the Gay people will convert your children and Obama will close down your church and make you a Muslim.  Furthermore, they'll take your guns and then you can't defend yourself against Those People, who exist only to rape your White daughters.  And then, they'll put an end to NASCAR, and cut off everyone's mullets, which is against Jesus.

Finally, some guy named Bidet will come and take away your toilet paper, like they do in France.

:lulz:
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Nigel on February 11, 2012, 12:40:41 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 11, 2012, 12:13:56 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 10, 2012, 10:49:52 PM
This Freedom(TM) sounds intriguing, would you recommend it for savages such as like my people?

Certainly.  I'm all about educating the heathen. 

FreedomTM is all about doing whatever you like, as long as whatever YOU like is the same as what WE like.  You can't have FreedomTM if people run around all unregulated, after all.  That's not safe.  And you can't be FreeTM if you aren't safe, because smudgy people and socialists will come and take your stuff.  And maybe even raise your taxes.  And then the Gay people will convert your children and Obama will close down your church and make you a Muslim.  Furthermore, they'll take your guns and then you can't defend yourself against Those People, who exist only to rape your White daughters.  And then, they'll put an end to NASCAR, and cut off everyone's mullets, which is against Jesus.

Finally, some guy named Bidet will come and take away your toilet paper, like they do in France.

:lulz:

My head is entirely too full, these days.
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 11, 2012, 12:43:23 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 11, 2012, 12:40:41 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 11, 2012, 12:13:56 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 10, 2012, 10:49:52 PM
This Freedom(TM) sounds intriguing, would you recommend it for savages such as like my people?

Certainly.  I'm all about educating the heathen. 

FreedomTM is all about doing whatever you like, as long as whatever YOU like is the same as what WE like.  You can't have FreedomTM if people run around all unregulated, after all.  That's not safe.  And you can't be FreeTM if you aren't safe, because smudgy people and socialists will come and take your stuff.  And maybe even raise your taxes.  And then the Gay people will convert your children and Obama will close down your church and make you a Muslim.  Furthermore, they'll take your guns and then you can't defend yourself against Those People, who exist only to rape your White daughters.  And then, they'll put an end to NASCAR, and cut off everyone's mullets, which is against Jesus.

Finally, some guy named Bidet will come and take away your toilet paper, like they do in France.

:lulz:

My head is entirely too full, these days.

Gotta squeeze that stuff our of there.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Nigel on February 11, 2012, 01:22:42 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 11, 2012, 12:43:23 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 11, 2012, 12:40:41 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 11, 2012, 12:13:56 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 10, 2012, 10:49:52 PM
This Freedom(TM) sounds intriguing, would you recommend it for savages such as like my people?

Certainly.  I'm all about educating the heathen. 

FreedomTM is all about doing whatever you like, as long as whatever YOU like is the same as what WE like.  You can't have FreedomTM if people run around all unregulated, after all.  That's not safe.  And you can't be FreeTM if you aren't safe, because smudgy people and socialists will come and take your stuff.  And maybe even raise your taxes.  And then the Gay people will convert your children and Obama will close down your church and make you a Muslim.  Furthermore, they'll take your guns and then you can't defend yourself against Those People, who exist only to rape your White daughters.  And then, they'll put an end to NASCAR, and cut off everyone's mullets, which is against Jesus.

Finally, some guy named Bidet will come and take away your toilet paper, like they do in France.

:lulz:

My head is entirely too full, these days.

Gotta squeeze that stuff our of there.

You can only have so much HolinessTM, and then your pance fill up.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

BadBeast

Quote from: navkat on February 10, 2012, 06:38:39 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on February 10, 2012, 06:32:25 PM
Simple answer to BadBeast:  If you find the entire notion of marriage to be iffy, then you haven't met the right person yet.



LMNO
-speaks from experience.

That's not necessarily true. It's rare but some couples genuinely don't need it. Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russel are still together and are anti-marriage. Some people are really okay with just leaving that open and making their promises a la carte.
I lived with my ex for 10 years, had 2 kids, split up, didn't have any Court or Legal involvement at all. Since we split up, everything has been great. Informal and functional. I could always just turn up and see the kids whenever I liked, shit, we haven't even nearly argued in over a decade. I get on well with her bloke, she's had another kid, there's been no acrimony whatsoever, and we're still really close. 

Didn't Kurt Russell find Goldie Hawn unconscious in the water, suffering from amnesia, and lie to her? Said she was actually married to him. when . . . hang on,  :x
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kingyak

The Prop 8 decision had some text that addressed why calling gay marriage "marriage" instead of something else was important:

http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2012/02/07/420667/pop-culture-proposition-8/
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Danjanon

While we're adding links about prop 8. Prop 8 the musical!
http://youtu.be/Ug3YkVhkemg