My ex girlfriend is now a stripper.

[DECI4]

Let me ask you a question: Were you two chaste when you were together? If not, did she enjoy the sex? If so, was she shy about being naked in front of you or asking for what she wanted? Did she ever dance semi-suggestively (fully clothed) at a club or bar for fun and catharsis? Enjoy the music and moving her body?

I don't understand why a smart girl, fully clothed, with glasses and a $12-an-hour Paralegal job, drunkenly dancing with her friends to booty-music is respectable but the moment she quits working for the shark, takes off the J. Crew Khakis and shakes her tooshie for a few hundred in a night, she's...got some "secrets" and possibly a flawed character.

Does. Not. Compute.

I already answered many of your  questions in the OP. No she is not shy , she's been a dancer all her life, I realize there is nothing inherently wrong with stripping. And my negative opinion of it is based on: The strippers I've known and the experiences and general culture they have related to me about the lifestyle, my own sporadic experiences at strip clubs and dealing with people who work in the industry (not just dancers) and my ex girlfriends own words about it. To Paraphrase:

"junkies and single mothers" "gross and shady people" "I'm not proud of it"

She has no children, she is not into drugs, and she has never been the overly  materialistic type.  In closing, I feel the way I do because it is completely out of her character to do something out of the blue that she claims to find demeaning, around a bunch of people she doesn't like, in a culture she doesn't feel comfortable in, for a quick buck.

Did you just ignore what I said on purpose? Or did you genuinely miss the point? Cause I demonstrated how the introduction of her character is irrelevant and presented you with a perfectly reasonable argument for how you can frame this in the context of her character and still not feel threatened by it and what you essentially responded with was "I already addressed all this in the OP" and proceeded to repeat that the reason you're threatened by it is because it's out-of-character for her.

Your kettle logic is giving me a migraine.

Maybe I am missing your point. If so please rephrase.

Believe me, if she told me she was doing it for fun and money I would feel a lot better about it. If she was doing burlesque or artsy nude modeling I wouldn't be so worried about it. I'll repeat myself, she claims to not like doing it, she doesn't need to do it, she is doing it anyway.

[navkat]

TBH: I take a little offense to your illogical associations here. I'll be plain: I like fucking and sucking. I do a lot of it. It's fun. It's my main vice. I have no funky diseases, never tried heroin, don't do blow and I consider myself a clean, smart, funny, goodhearted person that puts more value into the world than I remove by shitting, eating and breathing.

I consider taking one's clothes off and wiggling around a little pole in front of other men to be child's play. If she's getting some money off that, AWEsome. That makes her smarter than me. I gotta work a separate job to fund my forays into sexual exhibitionism.

With all due respect, FUCK YOU. You whiney, judgmental, neurotic, little prick who's so sheltered, you have to invent ethical dilemmas for yourself by living vicariously through your hott ex girlfriend, you FUCK.

Not to be a mouthy whore about it or anything....

[Luna]

Let me ask you a question: Were you two chaste when you were together? If not, did she enjoy the sex? If so, was she shy about being naked in front of you or asking for what she wanted? Did she ever dance semi-suggestively (fully clothed) at a club or bar for fun and catharsis? Enjoy the music and moving her body?

I don't understand why a smart girl, fully clothed, with glasses and a $12-an-hour Paralegal job, drunkenly dancing with her friends to booty-music is respectable but the moment she quits working for the shark, takes off the J. Crew Khakis and shakes her tooshie for a few hundred in a night, she's...got some "secrets" and possibly a flawed character.

Does. Not. Compute.

I already answered many of your  questions in the OP. No she is not shy , she's been a dancer all her life, I realize there is nothing inherently wrong with stripping. And my negative opinion of it is based on: The strippers I've known and the experiences and general culture they have related to me about the lifestyle, my own sporadic experiences at strip clubs and dealing with people who work in the industry (not just dancers) and my ex girlfriends own words about it. To Paraphrase:

"junkies and single mothers" "gross and shady people" "I'm not proud of it"

She has no children, she is not into drugs, and she has never been the overly  materialistic type.  In closing, I feel the way I do because it is completely out of her character to do something out of the blue that she claims to find demeaning, around a bunch of people she doesn't like, in a culture she doesn't feel comfortable in, for a quick buck.

Did you just ignore what I said on purpose? Or did you genuinely miss the point? Cause I demonstrated how the introduction of her character is irrelevant and presented you with a perfectly reasonable argument for how you can frame this in the context of her character and still not feel threatened by it and what you essentially responded with was "I already addressed all this in the OP" and proceeded to repeat that the reason you're threatened by it is because it's out-of-character for her.

Your kettle logic is giving me a migraine.

Maybe I am missing your point. If so please rephrase.

Believe me, if she told me she was doing it for fun and money I would feel a lot better about it. If she was doing burlesque or artsy nude modeling I wouldn't be so worried about it. I'll repeat myself, she claims to not like doing it, she doesn't need to do it, she is doing it anyway.

And, and I will type this very slowly, in hopes that it sinks through your thick skull:

IT IS NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS.

That said:

[Cain]

I don't know what annoys me more - this idiotic topic, or the idiots who keep on responding to it srsly.

No, actually, on reflection, it's definitely the latter, because you're meant to know better.

[navkat]

Let me ask you a question: Were you two chaste when you were together? If not, did she enjoy the sex? If so, was she shy about being naked in front of you or asking for what she wanted? Did she ever dance semi-suggestively (fully clothed) at a club or bar for fun and catharsis? Enjoy the music and moving her body?

I don't understand why a smart girl, fully clothed, with glasses and a $12-an-hour Paralegal job, drunkenly dancing with her friends to booty-music is respectable but the moment she quits working for the shark, takes off the J. Crew Khakis and shakes her tooshie for a few hundred in a night, she's...got some "secrets" and possibly a flawed character.

Does. Not. Compute.

I already answered many of your  questions in the OP. No she is not shy , she's been a dancer all her life, I realize there is nothing inherently wrong with stripping. And my negative opinion of it is based on: The strippers I've known and the experiences and general culture they have related to me about the lifestyle, my own sporadic experiences at strip clubs and dealing with people who work in the industry (not just dancers) and my ex girlfriends own words about it. To Paraphrase:

"junkies and single mothers" "gross and shady people" "I'm not proud of it"

She has no children, she is not into drugs, and she has never been the overly  materialistic type.  In closing, I feel the way I do because it is completely out of her character to do something out of the blue that she claims to find demeaning, around a bunch of people she doesn't like, in a culture she doesn't feel comfortable in, for a quick buck.

Did you just ignore what I said on purpose? Or did you genuinely miss the point? Cause I demonstrated how the introduction of her character is irrelevant and presented you with a perfectly reasonable argument for how you can frame this in the context of her character and still not feel threatened by it and what you essentially responded with was "I already addressed all this in the OP" and proceeded to repeat that the reason you're threatened by it is because it's out-of-character for her.

Your kettle logic is giving me a migraine.

Maybe I am missing your point. If so please rephrase.

Believe me, if she told me she was doing it for fun and money I would feel a lot better about it. If she was doing burlesque or artsy nude modeling I wouldn't be so worried about it. I'll repeat myself, she claims to not like doing it, she doesn't need to do it, she is doing it anyway.

Nevermind, Luna took the words out my dirty, cocksucking, little mouf-hole:

Warning - while you were reading a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post.

[navkat]

I don't know what annoys me more - this idiotic topic, or the idiots who keep on responding to it srsly.

No, actually, on reflection, it's definitely the latter, because you're meant to know better.

YAY, INFIGHTING! Now we're crack-a-lackin, buster!

[Cain]

I don't know what annoys me more - this idiotic topic, or the idiots who keep on responding to it srsly.

No, actually, on reflection, it's definitely the latter, because you're meant to know better.

YAY, INFIGHTING! Now we're crack-a-lackin, buster!

Sorry, I must have missed the memo where I'm meant to back you up when you're being an idiot.

Besides, I'm not fighting, I'm doing paperwork.  Which is infinitely more enjoyable than watching people who should know better, not being.

[Don Coyote]

I don't know what annoys me more - this idiotic topic, or the idiots who keep on responding to it srsly.

No, actually, on reflection, it's definitely the latter, because you're meant to know better.

YAY, INFIGHTING! Now we're crack-a-lackin, buster!

I'd say it's more of "Guys, I know you are all smart, stop feeding the same tired retarded sock raping troll"

[Triple Zero]

So, did you post this at Totse2 too?

No.

Maybe someone ought to?

[The Rev]

So, did you post this at Totse2 too?

No.

Maybe someone ought to?

[DECI4]

Maybe, just maybe, she was ashamed because the first thing out of your yap the minute she mentioned the place was, "at least you're not a DANCER..."

Sure, and later I apologized for that comment. However, she specifically lied about being a dancer there initially and throughout the course of our evening together made up stories about being a waitress there.

Possibly because she figured you'd be a judgmental twat about it.  Which...  Yeah.

Look did you read my OP? I fully admit I'm being a judgemental prick about it, I admitted it to her and I've already admitted it to all of you. Since our conversation I've been supportive, haven't talked down to her about it and told her I'm cool with whatever she decides to do because I trust her to make the right decisions. Those are  mostly lies. I'm not cool with it, especially because even after giving my support she still claims to not like what she is doing. We were together for a long time, we communicate really well, we've always been able to be honest with each other. I don't see what is so hard to understand about me being worried about an important person in my life that claims to not like what she is doing yet is doing it anyway for some abstract amount of money with no specific goal behind it.

[navkat]

I don't know what annoys me more - this idiotic topic, or the idiots who keep on responding to it srsly.

No, actually, on reflection, it's definitely the latter, because you're meant to know better.

YAY, INFIGHTING! Now we're crack-a-lackin, buster!

Sorry, I must have missed the memo where I'm meant to back you up when you're being an idiot.

Besides, I'm not fighting, I'm doing paperwork.  Which is infinitely more enjoyable than watching people who should know better, not being.

Oh-HOOOO! "chck-chck! *finger guns*

[The Rev]

My dead ex-wife is a desk clerk at Hells Gate and I am sure she will have to stamp my ticket and I AM ALL BUTTHURT ABOUT IT!

[DECI4]

TBH: I take a little offense to your illogical associations here. I'll be plain: I like fucking and sucking. I do a lot of it. It's fun. It's my main vice. I have no funky diseases, never tried heroin, don't do blow and I consider myself a clean, smart, funny, goodhearted person that puts more value into the world than I remove by shitting, eating and breathing.

I consider taking one's clothes off and wiggling around a little pole in front of other men to be child's play. If she's getting some money off that, AWEsome. That makes her smarter than me. I gotta work a separate job to fund my forays into sexual exhibitionism.

With all due respect, FUCK YOU. You whiney, judgmental, neurotic, little prick who's so sheltered, you have to invent ethical dilemmas for yourself by living vicariously through your hott ex girlfriend, you FUCK.

I really don't care about your sex life. I don't consider you a bad person because you enjoy fucking. That seems pretty normal to me. Do you do it for money you don't need on a whim with people you don't like in an environment you don't like?

[navkat]

Maybe, just maybe, she was ashamed because the first thing out of your yap the minute she mentioned the place was, "at least you're not a DANCER..."

Sure, and later I apologized for that comment. However, she specifically lied about being a dancer there initially and throughout the course of our evening together made up stories about being a waitress there.

Possibly because she figured you'd be a judgmental twat about it.  Which...  Yeah.

Look did you read my OP? I fully admit I'm being a judgemental prick about it, I admitted it to her and I've already admitted it to all of you. Since our conversation I've been supportive, haven't talked down to her about it and told her I'm cool with whatever she decides to do because I trust her to make the right decisions. Those are  mostly lies. I'm not cool with it, especially because even after giving my support she still claims to not like what she is doing. We were together for a long time, we communicate really well, we've always been able to be honest with each other. I don't see what is so hard to understand about me being worried about an important person in my life that claims to not like what she is doing yet is doing it anyway for some abstract amount of money with no specific goal behind it.

What, precisely is your argument, here? You admit your judgement is baseless and Luna already summed it up by saying "it's none of your business."

I don't buy this sudden shift to "*sob* BUT I'M JUST SO WORRIED ABOUT HER!" You just admitted she's smart, has her shit together and has perfectly logical reasons. This is, mind you, after you've already dug yourself 20 feet into the "I wonder what ELSE she's capable of that I didn't see before?" hole.

State your true point, sir. Unless your point is just to make up reasons to have a shallow, ethical crisis on a forum notorious for no ethics.