Question about punk rock from non-punk bands

[EK WAFFLR]

Death Metal are usually songs about... you know... death, gore and other assorted horrors.

Not much Lightbringer worship in Cannibal Corpse & Six Feet Under.

[Triple Zero]

Well, I wanted to know which kind of metal was the satanic one and Wikipedia said it was Death Metal, and it's really not the point but now I do wonder which one *is* it that has all the satanic lyrics and such, then?

[EK WAFFLR]

Mostly Black Metal. A sub genre which owes A LOT to punk rock.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Yep. You might get occasional satanic themed songs in death metal. But you get that with black sabbath too. Black metals mission statement is to be evil. A lot of black metallers are also vegetarian. Because cauliflower is grim as fuck. But back to the punk influence punk gave metal its fast tempos. Iron maiden started out as a metal band with heavy punk influence.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

It is also worth noting that punk tends to be antiauthoritarian. Metal was meant to be the blues meets a horror movie.

[AFK]

Metal has expanded quite a bit over the past four decades.  Certainly there is a good portion of it that has been informed by punk, but there is also a good chunk of it that I would posit has little to know lineage involving punk.  I'm thinking of the symphonic, power metal strains of metal that are more rooted in classical masters like Wagner.  Same with some of the more symphonic strains of black metal. 

As far as the Satan angle.  Black metal certainly but there has been Satanism in other forms of Metal, including the Elvis-Metal of Danzig, who obviously was very influenced by punk given his tenure in prior punk bands.  There are some pretty Satanic death metal bands too, Deicide being the first that comes to mind. 

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Well, I wanted to know which kind of metal was the satanic one and Wikipedia said it was Death Metal, and it's really not the point but now I do wonder which one *is* it that has all the satanic lyrics and such, then?

King Diamond was supposed to be a practicing Satanist but I always just LOL'ed at his shit. "No Presents For Christmas"? 

Slayer's got a lot of hell-and-the-devil stuff.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Metal has expanded quite a bit over the past four decades.  Certainly there is a good portion of it that has been informed by punk, but there is also a good chunk of it that I would posit has little to know lineage involving punk.  I'm thinking of the symphonic, power metal strains of metal that are more rooted in classical masters like Wagner.  Same with some of the more symphonic strains of black metal. 

As far as the Satan angle.  Black metal certainly but there has been Satanism in other forms of Metal, including the Elvis-Metal of Danzig, who obviously was very influenced by punk given his tenure in prior punk bands.  There are some pretty Satanic death metal bands too, Deicide being the first that comes to mind.

I forgot about Danzig. But, the point that Waffles and myself are getting at is that while there are satanic Death Metallers, and other types of Metallers, it's not inherently Satanic. A lot just kinda dabble with the image for a song here and there, but otherwise don't bother. I mean, hell, Iron Maiden wrote a song about the number 666 and Nicko is a born-again Christian.

Well, I wanted to know which kind of metal was the satanic one and Wikipedia said it was Death Metal, and it's really not the point but now I do wonder which one *is* it that has all the satanic lyrics and such, then?

King Diamond was supposed to be a practicing Satanist but I always just LOL'ed at his shit. "No Presents For Christmas"? 

Slayer's got a lot of hell-and-the-devil stuff.

I forgot about King Diamond. A friend of mine was into him and tried to get me to listen to some of his stuff. The falsetto shrieking made me want to punch him through the headphones.

Also, I'm going to start up a new thread, so as not to spag up the punk with metal. I'mma quote this as the OP.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Metal has expanded quite a bit over the past four decades.  Certainly there is a good portion of it that has been informed by punk, but there is also a good chunk of it that I would posit has little to know lineage involving punk.  I'm thinking of the symphonic, power metal strains of metal that are more rooted in classical masters like Wagner.  Same with some of the more symphonic strains of black metal. 

As far as the Satan angle.  Black metal certainly but there has been Satanism in other forms of Metal, including the Elvis-Metal of Danzig, who obviously was very influenced by punk given his tenure in prior punk bands.  There are some pretty Satanic death metal bands too, Deicide being the first that comes to mind.

I forgot about Danzig. But, the point that Waffles and myself are getting at is that while there are satanic Death Metallers, and other types of Metallers, it's not inherently Satanic. A lot just kinda dabble with the image for a song here and there, but otherwise don't bother. I mean, hell, Iron Maiden wrote a song about the number 666 and Nicko is a born-again Christian.

Well, I wanted to know which kind of metal was the satanic one and Wikipedia said it was Death Metal, and it's really not the point but now I do wonder which one *is* it that has all the satanic lyrics and such, then?

King Diamond was supposed to be a practicing Satanist but I always just LOL'ed at his shit. "No Presents For Christmas"? 

Slayer's got a lot of hell-and-the-devil stuff.

I forgot about King Diamond. A friend of mine was into him and tried to get me to listen to some of his stuff. The falsetto shrieking made me want to punch him through the headphones.

Also, I'm going to start up a new thread, so as not to spag up the punk with metal. I'mma quote this as the OP.

Cool. And yeah, KD was an assclown. 

[AFK]

Well, I wanted to know which kind of metal was the satanic one and Wikipedia said it was Death Metal, and it's really not the point but now I do wonder which one *is* it that has all the satanic lyrics and such, then?

King Diamond was supposed to be a practicing Satanist but I always just LOL'ed at his shit. "No Presents For Christmas"? 

Slayer's got a lot of hell-and-the-devil stuff.

Tom Araya is a Catholic. 

[LMNO]

It is also worth noting that punk tends to be antiauthoritarian. Metal was meant to be the blues meets a horror movie.

"War Pigs," "Dirty Deeds", "Breaking the Law", "The Prisoner", "Jailbreak"

[MMIX]

It is also worth noting that punk tends to be antiauthoritarian. Metal was meant to be the blues meets a horror movie.

"War Pigs," "Dirty Deeds", "Breaking the Law", "The Prisoner", "Jailbreak"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_fODduUkk4

Good music is good music, pick your own instrument, pick your own tunes, everything else is bullshit and people telling you what you should like, why you should like it and what it means.

[East Coast Hustle]

Well, I wanted to know which kind of metal was the satanic one and Wikipedia said it was Death Metal, and it's really not the point but now I do wonder which one *is* it that has all the satanic lyrics and such, then?

King Diamond was supposed to be a practicing Satanist but I always just LOL'ed at his shit. "No Presents For Christmas"? 

Slayer's got a lot of hell-and-the-devil stuff.

Slayer's "satanic" stuff is all political allegory couched in terms the average 17 year old hesher can understand.