The Pharmacracy of Consent

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I'm not gonna argue the legal/illegal but, that's been done to death...

But, I do think that saying counciling isn't mandatory, but in some cases is a condition of not going to prison seems a little disingenuous.

"Would you like to get help from a professional for your disease of drug addiction, or would you like to go live in a 10x0 cell with Bubba?"

That's the sort of option you expect from a shakedown.

"Would you like to pay us to protect your business, or would you like for your shop to 'accidentally' burn to the ground?"

But they only go to treatment if the assessment comes out positive.  If it comes out negative, which isn't very often the case in my experience, then the conditions will be different.  Either some kind of education along with community service, or maybe just community service....it's all going to depend on what the offense(s) was. 

I will just also add that also in my experience, it doesn't end up being much of a dilemma for some.  I've known of many who are quite comfortable just going ahead and doing their time and skipping the opportunity to be screened and, if appropriate, receive treatment.

That, about it not being a dilemma for some, is refreshing, and afforded me another chance to try and complete some thoughts  . Education....  Education. (c-mon sparky...). Okay, last retort:  the cost rehabilitation varies...  The pushers are supplied at times by the same hand that is then extended for rehabilitation...  Over/out (topic requires more firing neurons than I can front)

[Doktor Howl]

What? Could you expound on that bc I'm not sure I comprehend.

navcat, I've gotten enough unwarranted "what's" today from doc that it would really be something else if people actually took thhe time to specify what it is that they don't understand?
Is the Stockholm thing getting in the way? 

Perhaps if you made any fucking sense?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I'm not gonna argue the legal/illegal but, that's been done to death...

But, I do think that saying counciling isn't mandatory, but in some cases is a condition of not going to prison seems a little disingenuous.

"Would you like to get help from a professional for your disease of drug addiction, or would you like to go live in a 10x0 cell with Bubba?"

That's the sort of option you expect from a shakedown.

"Would you like to pay us to protect your business, or would you like for your shop to 'accidentally' burn to the ground?"

The "justice" system is entirely punitive and profit-driven when it comes to drugs. Monetizing the drug war was one of the most corrosive-to-human-rights processes since slavery, and the privatization of the prison system (and profit-driven criminalization of undocumented immigration) is the cherry on the corruption sundae.

That entire system is irredeemably evil, and I don't use the word lightly. It is anti-American, anti-democracy, and anti-human.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

I'm not gonna argue the legal/illegal but, that's been done to death...

But, I do think that saying counciling isn't mandatory, but in some cases is a condition of not going to prison seems a little disingenuous.

"Would you like to get help from a professional for your disease of drug addiction, or would you like to go live in a 10x0 cell with Bubba?"

That's the sort of option you expect from a shakedown.

"Would you like to pay us to protect your business, or would you like for your shop to 'accidentally' burn to the ground?"

The "justice" system is entirely punitive and profit-driven when it comes to drugs. Monetizing the drug war was one of the most corrosive-to-human-rights processes since slavery, and the privatization of the prison system (and profit-driven criminalization of undocumented immigration) is the cherry on the corruption sundae.

That entire system is irredeemably evil, and I don't use the word lightly. It is anti-American, anti-democracy, and anti-human.

damn, thats the second time today I'm agreeing with you

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I'm not gonna argue the legal/illegal but, that's been done to death...

But, I do think that saying counciling isn't mandatory, but in some cases is a condition of not going to prison seems a little disingenuous.

"Would you like to get help from a professional for your disease of drug addiction, or would you like to go live in a 10x0 cell with Bubba?"

That's the sort of option you expect from a shakedown.

"Would you like to pay us to protect your business, or would you like for your shop to 'accidentally' burn to the ground?"

The "justice" system is entirely punitive and profit-driven when it comes to drugs. Monetizing the drug war was one of the most corrosive-to-human-rights processes since slavery, and the privatization of the prison system (and profit-driven criminalization of undocumented immigration) is the cherry on the corruption sundae.

That entire system is irredeemably evil, and I don't use the word lightly. It is anti-American, anti-democracy, and anti-human.

damn, thats the second time today I'm agreeing with you

It won't last. 

[Cain]

Why does anyone bother to reply to Lucifer X?  His rambling has improved over time, but that doesn't actually mean it is good, or worth paying attention to.  33% coherency is not acceptable, people.

[Doktor Howl]

Why does anyone bother to reply to Lucifer X?  His rambling has improved over time, but that doesn't actually mean it is good, or worth paying attention to.  33% coherency is not acceptable, people.

I can't help myself.  It's like listening to Rush Limbaugh and NOT screaming at the radio.

[Elder Iptuous]

you're not well, Dok.

[Doktor Howl]

you're not well, Dok.

Exposure to too much raw SCIENCE does that to you.

I mean, alongside the extra toes and such.

[Elder Iptuous]

you're still getting those?  jesus....
you must have a box full of them under your bathroom sink by now.

[Doktor Howl]

you're still getting those?  jesus....
you must have a box full of them under your bathroom sink by now.

Apparently, the original owners didn't need them very much.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

What? Could you expound on that bc I'm not sure I comprehend.

navcat, I've gotten enough unwarranted "what's" today from doc that it would really be something else if people actually took thhe time to specify what it is that they don't understand?
Is the Stockholm thing getting in the way? 

Wow.

I know what Stockholm Syndrome and Munchausen by proxy are. I just don't see how a psychological adaptation to extreme fear by becoming loyal to one's captors or mothers who hoist illness on their suggestible children for attention have to do with the topic at hand.

I also don't appreciate your using me as a cheap segue to make a passive-aggressive statement aimed at Rog. It's blindingly obvious, childish and insulting. Bonus for you for attempting to "take me down a notch" and tell me what's what in the "wacky and wonderful world of medicine (lol!)." Your attempt at schooling people in matters related to human physiology to make yourself seem smarter than you are had a paradoxical effect. You know what that means, right?

It's all well and good to go on a wiki surf because you're intrigued with a subject and for that knowledge to come out in a forum convo...or even for you to surf to get your facts straight and then post. What you're doing--half-assed wiki searches just to throw some "medical lingo" out there and start shit with the non-threatening, nice girl on the forum--makes you look like a retard with something to prove to the other guys.

Word of advice: You don't gain clout around here by senseless arguing or throwing poo in someone else's backyard. You gain respect by knowing your own shit cold and contributing your own flavor to the board.

Sorry to house you, babycakes but you asked for it by trying to lift my skirt. Better luck next time!

Great post, but I wouldn't have wasted that much effort.

Sometimes a simple "fuck off" is all you need. 

[Doktor Howl]

Cain's right, though.  Posting in threads like this is basically just Slack Abuse.

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Awesome, then I'll just take my toys (the ones I still have left), and pander them to serious jokers instead.  Has anyone seen the check-out isle?

[Roly Poly Oly-Garch]

I'm not gonna argue the legal/illegal but, that's been done to death...

But, I do think that saying counciling isn't mandatory, but in some cases is a condition of not going to prison seems a little disingenuous.

"Would you like to get help from a professional for your disease of drug addiction, or would you like to go live in a 10x0 cell with Bubba?"

That's the sort of option you expect from a shakedown.

"Would you like to pay us to protect your business, or would you like for your shop to 'accidentally' burn to the ground?"

The "justice" system is entirely punitive and profit-driven when it comes to drugs. Monetizing the drug war was one of the most corrosive-to-human-rights processes since slavery, and the privatization of the prison system (and profit-driven criminalization of undocumented immigration) is the cherry on the corruption sundae.

That entire system is irredeemably evil, and I don't use the word lightly. It is anti-American, anti-democracy, and anti-human.

When you hit hard, you hit proper. Very well put.