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Smartest Guy in the Room Syndrome

Started by Mesozoic Mister Nigel, March 29, 2012, 03:50:33 PM

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: rong on March 30, 2012, 08:22:19 PM
I find at work there are often several smartest guys in the room.

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!

Do they get louder and louder while talking to each other, until nobody else can carry on a conversation anywhere in their vicinity?
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


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Quote from: Doktor M. Phox0 on March 30, 2012, 05:02:33 AM
Speak for yourself. I've got lots of friends.
Yes: &i have 0
WhiTch is 1 to many | i do have lots of Nations / Religions / & GoMint
Enemies HOWever. & 4 Sfo's too.
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Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on March 30, 2012, 08:20:46 PM
SGitR will tell anyone and everyone how to parent, because he has three children.  Nevermind that they didn't ask for help, nevermind that they don't even have children, they obviously need his or her advice because they aren't doing it the same way or are thinking about doing it differently.


SGitR may occasionally hook up with other SGitR, but never ones who have different opinions.

SGitR will also do this when he has no children, and the person he is talking to is a parent of three.

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Quote from: Nigel on March 30, 2012, 08:40:50 PM
Quote from: rong on March 30, 2012, 08:22:19 PM
I find at work there are often several smartest guys in the room.

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!

Do they get louder and louder while talking to each other, until nobody else can carry on a conversation anywhere in their vicinity?

One guy definitely uses the louder technique.  The other ones either change the subject or resort to blaming management.  One guy just holds his ground, asserting his rank.
"a real smart feller, he felt smart"

navkat

SGITR is a self-control and give a shit about other people's opinions issue.

Also: We're all a bunch of bitches.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 30, 2012, 04:00:52 AM
Quote from: rong on March 30, 2012, 01:56:45 AM


Also, it occurs to me that this board suffers from "smartest forum on the internet syndrome" and that's why you don't have many friends.

Actually, that's because we're a bunch of dicks.


This is still the best comeback ever.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: AFK on March 29, 2012, 04:55:18 PM
I think there is a corollary to this as well which is the person who is unwittingly perceived as the Smartest Guy or one of the Smartest Guys in the room.  And it usually is someone who is certainly a very capable person in any given field or area of expertise, but not someone who holds themselves as the Ultimate Guru of Everything.  And then that person gets laden with everyone else's work.

Also, bump because I remember deliberately not responding to this but oh, god, oh, god, so much irony right here.  :lol:
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 24, 2015, 10:04:36 PM
Quote from: AFK on March 29, 2012, 04:55:18 PM
I think there is a corollary to this as well which is the person who is unwittingly perceived as the Smartest Guy or one of the Smartest Guys in the room.  And it usually is someone who is certainly a very capable person in any given field or area of expertise, but not someone who holds themselves as the Ultimate Guru of Everything.  And then that person gets laden with everyone else's work.

Also, bump because I remember deliberately not responding to this but oh, god, oh, god, so much irony right here.  :lol:

Yeah, I remember that.  It was one of RWHN's finest moments.  :lol:
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Johnny


(small note: I was at page 2 and thread blew up to page 8 out of nowhere, but I want to contribute with terminology from my field in a parallel type of conceptualization.)

SGITR is the equivalent of believing and desiring to be the "subject of knowledge"... which is one of the possible subderivations of the "subject of power" or in anthropological/psychoanalytical terms, "the phallus"...

While the most common demonstration/aspiration to show itself as "the phallus" (the holder of power) to others is physical power, be it muscular strenght (see: gym vigorexics), "toughness" (see: "internet tough guy"), or ability at handling weapons (see: "fedora samurai" and/or "gun freaks") not all humans have physically or directly violent interests.

That's were SGITR falls into... the category of aspiration to power thru "knowledge" and "words"... one can be mystical power (see: "wiccans", "satanists" and or "mystick wicks elders"), or the power of seduction (see: PUAs, marketers, salesmen of any kind, lawyers) or "science specialists/experts" which think that expertise in one area means all of them.

**scurries away to catch up on thread**
<<My image in some places, is of a monster of some kind who wants to pull a string and manipulate people. Nothing could be further from the truth. People are manipulated; I just want them to be manipulated more effectively.>>

-B.F. Skinner

The Johnny


As I keep going thru the thread there also seems to be one of these characteristics:

1. Big fish in a small pond

2. Slightly smarterer than average

3. The overestimation/misuse/boasting of its capabilities/gifts and/or random shit.
<<My image in some places, is of a monster of some kind who wants to pull a string and manipulate people. Nothing could be further from the truth. People are manipulated; I just want them to be manipulated more effectively.>>

-B.F. Skinner

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Johnny on October 25, 2015, 06:49:46 AM

(small note: I was at page 2 and thread blew up to page 8 out of nowhere, but I want to contribute with terminology from my field in a parallel type of conceptualization.)

SGITR is the equivalent of believing and desiring to be the "subject of knowledge"... which is one of the possible subderivations of the "subject of power" or in anthropological/psychoanalytical terms, "the phallus"...

While the most common demonstration/aspiration to show itself as "the phallus" (the holder of power) to others is physical power, be it muscular strenght (see: gym vigorexics), "toughness" (see: "internet tough guy"), or ability at handling weapons (see: "fedora samurai" and/or "gun freaks") not all humans have physically or directly violent interests.

That's were SGITR falls into... the category of aspiration to power thru "knowledge" and "words"... one can be mystical power (see: "wiccans", "satanists" and or "mystick wicks elders"), or the power of seduction (see: PUAs, marketers, salesmen of any kind, lawyers) or "science specialists/experts" which think that expertise in one area means all of them.

**scurries away to catch up on thread**

This does indeed seem to be the case.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Pæs

Quote from: The Johnny on October 25, 2015, 06:49:46 AManthropological/psychoanalytical terms, "the phallus"...
From now on I'm going with "SGitR or what anthropologists would call 'kind of a dick'."

Dildo Argentino

Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on March 29, 2012, 07:10:13 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on March 29, 2012, 06:58:11 PM
The more I read, the more I'm convinced a large part of my life was spent being the SGitR.

Same here. This was not helped by the fact that I spent roughly 6 years of my childhood in the larval stage: The Smartest Little Shit In The Room.

When you're the statistical outlier in a class of three dozen kids for the whole grade, and your reading level is three times everyone else's, it's hard not to be more knowledgeable about nearly everything than your peers. It's especially difficult to grow out of when your identity among your peers and teachers is built up as "The Smart Kid", and you're just likable enough that no one calls you out on being a SGitR.

Then I started being wrong more often, once the things we were expected to know got more complicated. I also decided that I preferred being liked to being The Smart Kid.

I know it's been four years, but this, so much this.

Also, for what it's worth (very little, I know), I do this a lot. I did it here a lot. Must have been a bit boring. I'm thinking about entering a 12-step programme (Smartarse Anonymous).
Not too keen on rigor, myself - reminds me of mortis

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Dildo Argentino on January 29, 2016, 11:30:50 AM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on March 29, 2012, 07:10:13 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on March 29, 2012, 06:58:11 PM
The more I read, the more I'm convinced a large part of my life was spent being the SGitR.

Same here. This was not helped by the fact that I spent roughly 6 years of my childhood in the larval stage: The Smartest Little Shit In The Room.

When you're the statistical outlier in a class of three dozen kids for the whole grade, and your reading level is three times everyone else's, it's hard not to be more knowledgeable about nearly everything than your peers. It's especially difficult to grow out of when your identity among your peers and teachers is built up as "The Smart Kid", and you're just likable enough that no one calls you out on being a SGitR.

Then I started being wrong more often, once the things we were expected to know got more complicated. I also decided that I preferred being liked to being The Smart Kid.

I know it's been four years, but this, so much this.

Also, for what it's worth (very little, I know), I do this a lot. I did it here a lot. Must have been a bit boring. I'm thinking about entering a 12-step programme (Smartarse Anonymous).

Well, as they say, admitting it is the first step...
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."