Turtles all the way down

[Doktor Howl]

I for one really appreciated the OP. Biological metaphors, especially ones grounded in insect behavior (you had me at Sphecidae) are so attractive to me.

At least, up until the final paragraph. Discord (I know, I know, chord /is/ a word, but discord is spelled without an 'h') is something that happens with humans, because while our minds may be largely ordered genetic programing, we do not all have the same programming. Also, minds programmed for hierarchies, which, unless there is a perfect numerical lock in between people and niches, will ALWAYS come into conflict at some level.

There's good reason to believe that social games are what selected for the human mind. Humans, the perfect embodiment of order and disorder, thus chaos.

Also, humans aren't insects.

Just saying.

[Chairman Risus]

I for one really appreciated the OP. Biological metaphors, especially ones grounded in insect behavior (you had me at Sphecidae) are so attractive to me.

At least, up until the final paragraph. Discord (I know, I know, chord /is/ a word, but discord is spelled without an 'h') is something that happens with humans, because while our minds may be largely ordered genetic programing, we do not all have the same programming. Also, minds programmed for hierarchies, which, unless there is a perfect numerical lock in between people and niches, will ALWAYS come into conflict at some level.

There's good reason to believe that social games are what selected for the human mind. Humans, the perfect embodiment of order and disorder, thus chaos.

Also, humans aren't insects.

Just saying.

While I cannot technically disprove this, I'm just going to point out that neither appreciates a blast of RAID in the face.

[Doktor Howl]

I for one really appreciated the OP. Biological metaphors, especially ones grounded in insect behavior (you had me at Sphecidae) are so attractive to me.

At least, up until the final paragraph. Discord (I know, I know, chord /is/ a word, but discord is spelled without an 'h') is something that happens with humans, because while our minds may be largely ordered genetic programing, we do not all have the same programming. Also, minds programmed for hierarchies, which, unless there is a perfect numerical lock in between people and niches, will ALWAYS come into conflict at some level.

There's good reason to believe that social games are what selected for the human mind. Humans, the perfect embodiment of order and disorder, thus chaos.

Also, humans aren't insects.

Just saying.

While I cannot technically disprove this, I'm just going to point out that neither appreciates a blast of RAID in the face.

Yeah, and both hate it when you hit them with sledgehammers and then light them on fire.

Not sure where we're going with this.

[Freeky]

I could think of any number of things that hate both of those things.

[Doktor Howl]

I could think of any number of things that hate both of those things.

But not the way digger wasps and I hate those things.

[Freeky]

I could think of any number of things that hate both of those things.

But not the way digger wasps and I hate those things.

But I thought you liked getting bludgeoned?  You always shout such nice things when you get beat with The Meathammah.

[Doktor Howl]

I could think of any number of things that hate both of those things.

But not the way digger wasps and I hate those things.

But I thought you liked getting bludgeoned?  You always shout such nice things when you get beat with The Meathammah.

It's the sledgehammmer bit.  It doesn't hurt the right way.

[Freeky]

I could think of any number of things that hate both of those things.

But not the way digger wasps and I hate those things.

But I thought you liked getting bludgeoned?  You always shout such nice things when you get beat with The Meathammah.

It's the sledgehammmer bit.  It doesn't hurt the right way.

Touche.

[Chairman Risus]

I for one really appreciated the OP. Biological metaphors, especially ones grounded in insect behavior (you had me at Sphecidae) are so attractive to me.

At least, up until the final paragraph. Discord (I know, I know, chord /is/ a word, but discord is spelled without an 'h') is something that happens with humans, because while our minds may be largely ordered genetic programing, we do not all have the same programming. Also, minds programmed for hierarchies, which, unless there is a perfect numerical lock in between people and niches, will ALWAYS come into conflict at some level.

There's good reason to believe that social games are what selected for the human mind. Humans, the perfect embodiment of order and disorder, thus chaos.

Also, humans aren't insects.

Just saying.

While I cannot technically disprove this, I'm just going to point out that neither appreciates a blast of RAID in the face.

Yeah, and both hate it when you hit them with sledgehammers and then light them on fire.

Not sure where we're going with this.

Point. The "can of RAID to the face" test is often inconclusive, anyway. Humans probably aren't arthropods.

[Kai]

I for one really appreciated the OP. Biological metaphors, especially ones grounded in insect behavior (you had me at Sphecidae) are so attractive to me.

At least, up until the final paragraph. Discord (I know, I know, chord /is/ a word, but discord is spelled without an 'h') is something that happens with humans, because while our minds may be largely ordered genetic programing, we do not all have the same programming. Also, minds programmed for hierarchies, which, unless there is a perfect numerical lock in between people and niches, will ALWAYS come into conflict at some level.

There's good reason to believe that social games are what selected for the human mind. Humans, the perfect embodiment of order and disorder, thus chaos.

Also, humans aren't insects.

Just saying.

No, humans aren't insects (Seriously Dok?) Humans, however despite their recursive loop awareness, still have fixed action patterns that are difficult to derail. The comparison to insect behavior reveals how much of human behavior is equally automatic. The difference being that we can break free.

[Doktor Howl]

No, humans aren't insects (Seriously Dok?)

Seriously.  That was the problem I had with the OP.  The comparison was crap.

[navkat]

I was thinking about this in the car on the way to the store tonight. I was thinking about how alllll of the world's problems could be solved if everyone would just shut the fuck up and think logically. And then I was like "Well, there are all these cultural differences and...NO! Cultural differences, BULLSHIT. logic transcends stupid ideas like "cultural differences. Scientific theory. Apply it. Bam. ALL DEVIANTS SHALL BE SHOT."

There ain't no fascist like a Libertarian scorned.

[Doktor Howl]

I was thinking about this in the car on the way to the store tonight. I was thinking about how alllll of the world's problems could be solved if everyone would just shut the fuck up and think logically. And then I was like "Well, there are all these cultural differences and...NO! Cultural differences, BULLSHIT. logic transcends stupid ideas like "cultural differences. Scientific theory. Apply it. Bam. ALL DEVIANTS SHALL BE SHOT."

There ain't no fascist like a Libertarian scorned.

Hell with that.  People start thinking logically, I'm gonna go batshit.

[Freeky]

Why?

[navkat]

Because it'll be us or Them.