Anarchism and Welfare

[Cain]

Furthermore, I seem to remember a time on PD that, if we found someone's actions and/or morally objectionable but not actually against the rules, we didn't sit around and whinge, looking for excuses to use the banhammer.

We had other ways of dealing with the problem.

[Freeky]

Nav, nobody said he did anything illegal, nor admitted to it.  I said that further upthread.  He hasn't done anything except for write snuff porn and possibly done some consensual if not safe things with his wife.

I loathe the piece of shit, and am disgusted by him, but he hasn't done anything that we know of, other than be a nasty gross disgusting individual.

[BabylonHoruv]

The problem, nav, is that BH only admitted to reading and writing snuff fiction.  No actual acts of violence sexual or otherwise that i know of.

That's right, also none planned, or condoned. 

Everyone fantasizes about things which would be wrong if they actually did them, my "don't talk about that shit" filter is just rather weaker than most and my fantasies about things that are wrong are of a sort that hits some people's freak out button.

Anyone who feels violated by my having those fantasies isn't being violated by me though,  I'm not the one who keeps bringing them up.  I also stay out of threads about sexual violence of any kind even if I have something to say about what is being discussed because I know my presence there isn't going to be helpful.  That point was, admittedly, driven home rather hard by Nigel, but even if it took me a minute to learn I have learned it.

[Freeky]

Everyone fantasizes about things which would be wrong if they actually did them

Don't bring the entire human race down to your level, you sick fuck.

[BabylonHoruv]

Everyone fantasizes about things which would be wrong if they actually did them

Don't bring the entire human race down to your level, you sick fuck.

I know you aren't a counter example because you've mentioned fantasizing about setting your asshole ex on fire.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Given we have no dead members posting, I see no threat to any existing members.

If he was a necrophiliac, I would find him less objectionable. But it's not that he wants to fuck dead people; it's that he wants to fuck people while he kills them.

I also think that one thing everyone should keep in mind when tempted to heap abuse on him is that he likes the abuse. It's attention, and he likes any kind of attention.

[Doktor Howl]

Oh, wow. I thought the "corpsefucker" thing was just a new tag we were throwing around now...like asshat. I didn't realize you were describing someone who really likes to insert his peenoid into expired meat friends.

No, that's necrophilia.  His kink is the idea of killing his partner during sex.

[Doktor Howl]

Everyone fantasizes about things which would be wrong if they actually did them

Don't bring the entire human race down to your level, you sick fuck.

I know you aren't a counter example because you've mentioned fantasizing about setting your asshole ex on fire.

Link or STFU.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Everyone fantasizes about things which would be wrong if they actually did them

Don't bring the entire human race down to your level, you sick fuck.

Interesting... that's the same justification rapists use.

[Freeky]

Everyone fantasizes about things which would be wrong if they actually did them

Don't bring the entire human race down to your level, you sick fuck.

Interesting... that's the same justification rapists use.

That's exactly my point.

[Freeky]

Everyone fantasizes about things which would be wrong if they actually did them

Don't bring the entire human race down to your level, you sick fuck.

I know you aren't a counter example because you've mentioned fantasizing about setting your asshole ex on fire.

No.  I haven't.

[BabylonHoruv]

Everyone fantasizes about things which would be wrong if they actually did them

Don't bring the entire human race down to your level, you sick fuck.

I know you aren't a counter example because you've mentioned fantasizing about setting your asshole ex on fire.

Link or STFU.

I couldn't find the post I was thinking of, Freeky is a prolific poster, but I did find this one fantasizing about harpooning fat people.

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,32343.msg1169864.html#msg1169864

I'm not trying to pick on Freeky, actually scrolling through her posts and trying to find an example I found way less than I had expected, it took ten pages to find one.  She's either got way less violent thoughts than most people or she expresses them way less.

I call Poe's law on the rapist thing.  Everyone excuses things that they do as part of being human, we all think we are normal, or at least close to normal.

[Freeky]

I don't care if it was me that said "Don't bring the entire human race down to your level," A) I wasn't talking about myself, and B) I'm still not at the level of creepitude that you are, and C) I'm not the entire human race.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Having cartoony over-the-top thoughts about harpooning fat people or setting an ex on fire is very, very, very different from masturbating while imagining doing so, or writing explicit pornography with graphic descriptions of harpooning fat people and setting people on fire.

I have gotten turned on watching animals fuck. You know what I DIDN'T do with that? Go off and masturbate while thinking about fucking animals. Because that's sick.

And, no, what she was doing there was not Poe's Law. You invoked the excuse that "everyone does it" to justify/excuse indulging your fantasies of murder/rape perversion. WRONG. Yes, everyone thinks about doing things they would never really do. But most people don't deliberately indulge sexual fantasies about things that are genuinely abhorrent, because to do so would be to disgust themselves. Most people avoid indulging those kinds of fantasies, because they don't want to feed the grotesque, less-than-human parts of themselves. You feed them, and then brag about it.

You are not like most people. You are different, and you are a nasty sticky thing stuck to the bottom of humanity's shoe.

[The Johnny]

I want to say something while trying to avoid fueling the drama

I do know that Babylon has some deviant sexual stuff going on.

I also know that hes given and taken within a lot of flame threads.

I know people hate anarchy threads.

What i do not know is if hes jacked threads and that has caused other members to anger and jack BH's own threads in retaliation.

If he indeed has jacked threads, i guess its fair punishment to ruin his threads; if he has not jacked threads, i find it unfair to ruin the ones he creates.

I dont mind arguing with people with deviant or opposing ideas or ideology, because i can learn a lot from how they position themselves on a certain issue, i only shun or just stop participating in threads where the OP is being obnoxious or trolling (if you hadnt noticed, i never participate in troll/drama threads).