Seeing a disturbing trend here in Tucson.

[Doktor Howl]

http://tucsoncitizen.com/pima-county-news/2011/09/16/giffords-staffer-pam-simon-to-speak-at-u-s-homeland-security-%e2%80%98faithful-readiness%e2%80%99-conference-hosted-by-pima-county-sept-20-22-in-tucson/

Pima County, Ariz. (Sept. 16, 2011) – Lessons learned from the Jan. 8 mass shooting in Tucson will be shared with faith-based groups and others at a U.S. Homeland Security conference, "Faithful Readiness," Sept. 20-22 at the Holiday Inn Hotel, 4550 S. Palo Verde Road in Tucson.

Yep.  The shooting on January 8th is now a matter for DHS and CHURCHES, not the police.

[Luna]

That's disturbing, yeah...  I can see the value in coordinating volunteer assistance in emergencies, but I find myself doubting this is a "stay the fuck out of the way, and when you CAN help, fo it without waving your book under everyone's noses."

[Doktor Howl]

That's disturbing, yeah...  I can see the value in coordinating volunteer assistance in emergencies, but I find myself doubting this is a "stay the fuck out of the way, and when you CAN help, fo it without waving your book under everyone's noses."

I'm just loving a DHS seminar entitled "Faithful Readiness".   

[Cain]

I know a little about the UK disaster response/first responders system, mainly because my father is part of Gold Command (the three-tiered response level to disaster-level events).

At no point in the command structure are churches asked if they want to play at emergency rescue.  Mainly because churches have a distressing tendency to use such crisis events to recruit, and, in some cases, deny treatment and care to those who refuse to do so, or refuse them treatment on other "ethical" grounds (men not allowed to touch women etc).

[Freeky]

I know a little about the UK disaster response/first responders system, mainly because my father is part of Gold Command (the three-tiered response level to disaster-level events).

At no point in the command structure are churches asked if they want to play at emergency rescue.  Mainly because churches have a distressing tendency to use such crisis events to recruit, and, in some cases, deny treatment and care to those who refuse to do so, or refuse them treatment on other "ethical" grounds (men not allowed to touch women etc).

Things are getting a little muddy here out west. 

[Doktor Howl]

I know a little about the UK disaster response/first responders system, mainly because my father is part of Gold Command (the three-tiered response level to disaster-level events).

At no point in the command structure are churches asked if they want to play at emergency rescue.  Mainly because churches have a distressing tendency to use such crisis events to recruit, and, in some cases, deny treatment and care to those who refuse to do so, or refuse them treatment on other "ethical" grounds (men not allowed to touch women etc).

Things are getting a little muddy here out west. 

Getting just a little...Disconnected.

[Freeky]

I know a little about the UK disaster response/first responders system, mainly because my father is part of Gold Command (the three-tiered response level to disaster-level events).

At no point in the command structure are churches asked if they want to play at emergency rescue.  Mainly because churches have a distressing tendency to use such crisis events to recruit, and, in some cases, deny treatment and care to those who refuse to do so, or refuse them treatment on other "ethical" grounds (men not allowed to touch women etc).

Things are getting a little muddy here out west.  

Getting just a little...Disconnected.

Geddin kindoff hazy...

[Don Coyote]

This still hurts the second time reading it.

[Doktor Howl]

This still hurts the second time reading it.

That's because you aren't a True American™.

[navkat]

Great. This just means we're going to have to start annexing Mexico if we want to return the the great days of gunslinging lawlessness. We're going to run out of land to steal homestead if we're not careful.

[Doktor Howl]

Great. This just means we're going to have to start annexing Mexico if we want to return the the great days of gunslinging lawlessness. We're going to run out of land to steal homestead if we're not careful.

You're so 1870.

Nowdays, what used to happen to them is happening to us.

[navkat]

Only we're the Chinamen too. And it's not a transcontinental railroad we're building, it's a giant, intricate pipeline with branches that grow out and touch every bit of space to bring goods and services rapidly to anywhere they're needed, at the speed of thought.

Oh look! There's one in your pocket!

GOLLY! There's one growing out of my finger!

I can't wait until I get one in my HEAD!

Continued...

[Icey]

I'm sorry. I seem to be missing something.

http://tucsoncitizen.com/pima-county-news/2011/09/16/giffords-staffer-pam-simon-to-speak-at-u-s-homeland-security-%e2%80%98faithful-readiness%e2%80%99-conference-hosted-by-pima-county-sept-20-22-in-tucson/

Pima County, Ariz. (Sept. 16, 2011) – Lessons learned from the Jan. 8 mass shooting in Tucson will be shared with faith-based groups and others at a U.S. Homeland Security conference, “Faithful Readiness,” Sept. 20-22 at the Holiday Inn Hotel, 4550 S. Palo Verde Road in Tucson.

Yep.  The shooting on January 8th is now a matter for DHS and CHURCHES, not the police.

Exactly how is the "Super Special Snowflake Bible Response Team" going to assist the future event of a mass shooting? Either they become so many meatshields (in some vain attempt to expend the attackers ammunition) or, much MUCH scarier, these asshats arm themselves and we have ourselves a good ol-fashioned purging.

[Doktor Howl]

I'm sorry. I seem to be missing something.

http://tucsoncitizen.com/pima-county-news/2011/09/16/giffords-staffer-pam-simon-to-speak-at-u-s-homeland-security-%e2%80%98faithful-readiness%e2%80%99-conference-hosted-by-pima-county-sept-20-22-in-tucson/

Pima County, Ariz. (Sept. 16, 2011) – Lessons learned from the Jan. 8 mass shooting in Tucson will be shared with faith-based groups and others at a U.S. Homeland Security conference, "Faithful Readiness," Sept. 20-22 at the Holiday Inn Hotel, 4550 S. Palo Verde Road in Tucson.

Yep.  The shooting on January 8th is now a matter for DHS and CHURCHES, not the police.

Exactly how is the "Super Special Snowflake Bible Response Team" going to assist the future event of a mass shooting? Either they become so many meatshields (in some vain attempt to expend the attackers ammunition) or, much MUCH scarier, these asshats arm themselves and we have ourselves a good ol-fashioned purging.

No, no, no.  We just put the religious people in charge and they'll fix everything.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

I'm sorry. I seem to be missing something.

http://tucsoncitizen.com/pima-county-news/2011/09/16/giffords-staffer-pam-simon-to-speak-at-u-s-homeland-security-%e2%80%98faithful-readiness%e2%80%99-conference-hosted-by-pima-county-sept-20-22-in-tucson/

Pima County, Ariz. (Sept. 16, 2011) – Lessons learned from the Jan. 8 mass shooting in Tucson will be shared with faith-based groups and others at a U.S. Homeland Security conference, "Faithful Readiness," Sept. 20-22 at the Holiday Inn Hotel, 4550 S. Palo Verde Road in Tucson.

Yep.  The shooting on January 8th is now a matter for DHS and CHURCHES, not the police.

Exactly how is the "Super Special Snowflake Bible Response Team" going to assist the future event of a mass shooting? Either they become so many meatshields (in some vain attempt to expend the attackers ammunition) or, much MUCH scarier, these asshats arm themselves and we have ourselves a good ol-fashioned purging.

No, no, no.  We just put the religious people in charge and they'll fix everything.

Yep. Just like the missionaries fixed the kids at the Indian schools.

Welcome to the reservation.