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Started by Q. G. Pennyworth, May 22, 2012, 03:38:04 PM

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Q. G. Pennyworth

"second siblings set adrift" and "survivors of genocide" is specifically referring to the first inhabitants of the Americas. Everyone who has ever lived here came from somewhere else, and genetic research on surviving native american groups makes a strong case for their ancestors coming from at least different regions in Asia and the South Pacific, if not more continents. Over and over again, the Americas have been discovered, and great civilizations have been built, and crumble, and new ones are built on the ruins. I think there is a kind of kinship between all the different groups that have experienced the act of discovering this place, whether they did it in longboats or rafts or a steamship.

I dunno, it doesn't seem like this worked really well. Oh well.

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Q. G. Pennyworth

Quote from: Echo Chamber Music on May 23, 2012, 05:00:34 PM
HEY, ALL YOU GUYS ON THE PINE RIDGE RESERVATION! YEAH, YOU GUYS! DID YOU KNOW WE'RE, LIKE, TOTALLY KINDRED SPIRITS?

Yeah, that's what I was afraid of.

LMNO

An exceptional American is not proof of American Exceptionalism.

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Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 23, 2012, 05:04:39 PM
An exceptional American is not proof of American Exceptionalism.

Thank you

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Frankly, I'm surprised I was able to get that in ahead of you.

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Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 23, 2012, 05:01:15 PM
Quote from: Echo Chamber Music on May 23, 2012, 05:00:34 PM
HEY, ALL YOU GUYS ON THE PINE RIDGE RESERVATION! YEAH, YOU GUYS! DID YOU KNOW WE'RE, LIKE, TOTALLY KINDRED SPIRITS?

Yeah, that's what I was afraid of.

Thing is, America is just another "ism", a set of incorrect assumptions and mistaken beliefs.  Asking people to take the myth seriously is like asking people to believe in the tooth fairy.
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Nephew Twiddleton

I dunno. I see stuff that i like in this post. Mainly what i got out of it was that its the people who want to shake things up that are patriotic not the people who want to maintain the status quo or even regress. I didnt really see this as a form of american exceptionalism so much as a "hey guys we can do better." i may be looking at it from a weird angle though?
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East Coast Hustle

Patriotism is bullshit. And Amercan Exceptionalism, as a form of patriotism, is more bullshit than most. Congratulations, you won the "arbitrary lines on a map drawn by powerbrokers" lottery. Only not really, because your country is basically mired in dicks and there are no shortage of random map areas that enjoy better standards of living and aren't full of mouthbreathing dickweeds. And if that isn't bad enough, you go to other places and export your mouthbreathing dickweedness until they're just as ruined as the rest of the empire. And then you won't even do the proper thing and fuck off and turn us loose so we can suckle up to the much more generous and less "strings attached" chinese teat like all the banana republics that didn't interest you 100 years ago get to do.

Seriously, the whole concept of AMERICA can go fuck itself. It barely deserved its first day in the sun and it clearly hasn't done anything to earn a resurgence.
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

Anna Mae Bollocks

Quote from: Echo Chamber Music on May 23, 2012, 05:00:34 PM
HEY, ALL YOU GUYS ON THE PINE RIDGE RESERVATION! YEAH, YOU GUYS! DID YOU KNOW WE'RE, LIKE, TOTALLY KINDRED SPIRITS?

Quote from: Echo Chamber Music on May 23, 2012, 08:58:23 PM
Patriotism is bullshit. And Amercan Exceptionalism, as a form of patriotism, is more bullshit than most. Congratulations, you won the "arbitrary lines on a map drawn by powerbrokers" lottery. Only not really, because your country is basically mired in dicks and there are no shortage of random map areas that enjoy better standards of living and aren't full of mouthbreathing dickweeds. And if that isn't bad enough, you go to other places and export your mouthbreathing dickweedness until they're just as ruined as the rest of the empire. And then you won't even do the proper thing and fuck off and turn us loose so we can suckle up to the much more generous and less "strings attached" chinese teat like all the banana republics that didn't interest you 100 years ago get to do.

Seriously, the whole concept of AMERICA can go fuck itself. It barely deserved its first day in the sun and it clearly hasn't done anything to earn a resurgence.

THIS. All of it.
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Nephew Twiddleton

While i agree that nationality is just accident of birth most people do have the opportunity to not live within that nation state and also have the option to change their nationality. Means to do so is a different thing of course.
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Nephew Twiddleton

I mean i could always move somewhere else. I just happen to like living in boston. I like a lot of other places ive been too but not enough to want to leave eastern massachusetts on a largely permanent basis.
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