Attn ex-Pagans/Magicians

[00.dusk]

lol, mauve

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauve#Occultism

"Oblique to the paths that give on to other dimensions, and beyond them, there lies a region which the author has named the Mauve Zone. Mystics, magicians, sorcerers, alchemists, artists of many kinds have - over the centuries - skirted it, stumbled upon it, and fled from it. Very few have penetrated beyond it and survived, or cared to leave any record of the experience. Those that did, have had to present their accounts as fiction or discover a new means of communication - via weird art, symbols, hieroglyphics, signs which fellow pilgrims alone might recognize. Access to the Mauve Zone has been facilitated in more recent times by the use of magical systems developed by occultists such as Austin Osman Spare and Aleister Crowley, both of whom established contact with inter-dimensional entities possessed of transhuman knowledge and power. Both systems involve the use of sexual magick to open hidden gates that have remained sealed for centuries."

I'm not sure if this is worth a . But I can't find a more suitable emoticon for "fuck you for telling me about how i accidentally stumbled upon something stupid people actually believe when I ws just trying to be funny."

I've read most of Kenneth Grant's works.

It gets better.  The Mauve Zone is home to Lovecraftian horrors.  As in, actual Lovecraftian horrors, as described by Lovecraft.  Because HP was subconsciously in contact with said Mauve Zone.

....Except now it all makes horrrible, horrible sense. I clearly have K Syndrome.

[P3nT4gR4m]

lol, mauve

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauve#Occultism

"Oblique to the paths that give on to other dimensions, and beyond them, there lies a region which the author has named the Mauve Zone. Mystics, magicians, sorcerers, alchemists, artists of many kinds have - over the centuries - skirted it, stumbled upon it, and fled from it. Very few have penetrated beyond it and survived, or cared to leave any record of the experience. Those that did, have had to present their accounts as fiction or discover a new means of communication - via weird art, symbols, hieroglyphics, signs which fellow pilgrims alone might recognize. Access to the Mauve Zone has been facilitated in more recent times by the use of magical systems developed by occultists such as Austin Osman Spare and Aleister Crowley, both of whom established contact with inter-dimensional entities possessed of transhuman knowledge and power. Both systems involve the use of sexual magick to open hidden gates that have remained sealed for centuries."

I'm not sure if this is worth a . But I can't find a more suitable emoticon for "fuck you for telling me about how i accidentally stumbled upon something stupid people actually believe when I ws just trying to be funny."

Rule 34 holds true for retardedness just as it does to porn

[Cain]

Mangrove is probably the best person to ask about Kenneth Grant, however.  I just read him for the lulz, whereas Mangrove actually knows a bit about 20th century occultism and so on.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Is it acceptable to consider lovecraftian occultists as worse than other occultists?

[Juana]

I never did magic. IF it was real I figured I better not mess with it because humans are stupid and I'm a human.
Re: paganism: I subject my beliefs to regular questioning and it didn't stand up to that any better than Catholicism did. So I dumped it.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Is it acceptable to consider lovecraftian occultists as worse than other occultists?

Believing in fantasy is believing in fantasy...

Then again, at least the normal occultists believe in benign or helpful entities. I never understood why you'd want to connect with entities that, at best, don't give a shit about humans and at worst would like to eat them/drive them insane/wipe them out.

I know a guy that actually worships Cthulhu... he also claims that he's a nihilist. Both are positions I could never understand.

[Cain]

It's like playing with sentient nuclear weapons!

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Well theres that too. But it seems to me like the lovecraft thing takes a special type of personality.

[Cain]

Well, the cultists in Lovecraftian stories were insane, so it's really a case of fiction informing reality.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Well, the cultists in Lovecraftian stories were insane, so it's really a case of fiction informing reality.

Very true. The number of people I've run into thaat think they have a copy of the 'real' necronomicon make me want to spew hate that would make Roger blush. 

[Cain]

Peter Levenda requires some kind of reward, for his services to the Rhode Island literary industry.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Point taken. I just think about all the people who comment on amazon about the simonomicon and the stuff that happened to them after they bought it. To be sure a good chunk is a bit of the troll but you know a good portion of them actually believe what theyre saying.

[Cain]

Well, Levenda is an occultist, so even though he clearly spent a lot of time hanging around the "Sumerian mythology" section of the New York Library, he quite likely borrowed forms and techniques common to other occult traditions.

And if you believe in that kind of thing anyway (or you're a chaos magickian) it's not too far to go from that to a very concrete belief in the power of the thing.

Levenda still claims he isn't Simon, incidentally, and that he is going to write a book about what happened one day.  I'd like to see that happen, especially since he only touched on it, very obliquely, in The Manson Secret.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Havent heard of the manson secret...

[Cain]

Third book in his "Sinister Forces" trilogy, about the impact of the occult on American (para)political and cultural life.