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Gravitational motion power generators around planets.

Started by Sir Bearington, July 25, 2012, 02:36:57 PM

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Faust

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How do you turn only the dynamo and not the shaft it's attached to without it also moving with the gravitational force?

By having a opposite force to pull away from the gravity and a similar rate so it remains constant.

I'm still thinking about how to resolve that dilemma. Fuel sources attached to engines is a idea but it may be inefficient as it may either require constant refueling or sacrificing a quantity of the energy generated.
Yeah I kind of expected this response.
The idea was posed to attempt this back in the sixties. The reason no one has ever gone with it is because it requires those to be tethered to the earth.

Keeping something in a geostationary orbit while tethered to the earth is nigh on impossible.

Id keep the command modules remaining constant around Jupiter with the GKG tethered to them by something like diamond reinforced nanotubes or some shit like that.
Diamond? Lad,  nanotubes are carbon based, they are ultra hard because of this, check what diamond composed of. Also if you can get a carbon nanotube tether that long enough to do that you would have already solved the resource/energy issue.

Then there is getting power back from Jupiter to earth, you cant just ship it in a box.
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Sir Bearington

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Quote from: Faust on July 25, 2012, 03:21:59 PM
Quote from: Trollbear on July 25, 2012, 03:15:57 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 25, 2012, 03:13:33 PM
Quote from: Trollbear on July 25, 2012, 02:50:39 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 25, 2012, 02:46:24 PM
How do you turn only the dynamo and not the shaft it's attached to without it also moving with the gravitational force?

By having a opposite force to pull away from the gravity and a similar rate so it remains constant.

I'm still thinking about how to resolve that dilemma. Fuel sources attached to engines is a idea but it may be inefficient as it may either require constant refueling or sacrificing a quantity of the energy generated.
Yeah I kind of expected this response.
The idea was posed to attempt this back in the sixties. The reason no one has ever gone with it is because it requires those to be tethered to the earth.

Keeping something in a geostationary orbit while tethered to the earth is nigh on impossible.

Id keep the command modules remaining constant around Jupiter with the GKG tethered to them by something like diamond reinforced nanotubes or some shit like that.
Diamond? Lad,  nanotubes are carbon based, they are ultra hard because of this, check what diamond composed of. Also if you can get a carbon nanotube tether that long enough to do that you would have already solved the resource/energy issue.

Then there is getting power back from Jupiter to earth, you cant just ship it in a box.

Diamonds are also made out of carbon, since this kind of technology is far away I'm sure there would be a way to improve technology enough to fuse together nanotubes and diamonds even if they are microscopic shards so that they are strong enough. You could always have very long chain like structures to tether it using as minimal resources as possible by making it very strong and very thin even at spider thread length or thinner.

If you properly observed my diagram you would see the space station used for navigation with coordinates for every single generator or piece of equipment which is also monitored by ground control, to prevent any kind of automated error the spaceshuttles which would go up there to collect the energy cells roughly taking a good few years on each go would be manned by professionals held in a state of statis hopefully bring back enough energy in total to power tenfold the world demand of the amount of time it took them to get ready and go there. In a clean and efficient manner of course.

Faust

You don't seem to understand, Carbon nanotubes are as hard as diamond, there is no reinforcing them, they are the same material.

also if we were to solve the energy storage  problem to have something so efficient we would only need to charge it every few years we would have a battery so good we could charge it off fossil fuels for a day or two and have plenty to go with, space be damned. As it stands we generate shit loads of electricity, the majority of it is wasted, we have no way to store it well.

As to your "diagram", I can't make head nor tail of it.
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Sir Bearington

Just read the bits at the sides.

OK i acknowledge the fact that nanotubes are the same thing, and that just the battery would be more useful than what I'm talking about, but my idea industrializes space and considering that human demands are increasing all the time and fossil fuels will run out one day, it means we can run a shitload of electricity at no environmental cost by disowning carbon emissions and putting all power plants offplanet into one highly managed supersystem clean powerplant.

I'm no scientist but i think its a pretty damn good idea. I may even patent it.

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Faust

*Chains moon to the earth*
*Moon immediately starts bouncing off of the planet endlessly*
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Sir Bearington

Quote from: Faust on July 25, 2012, 04:35:25 PM
*Chains moon to the earth*
*Moon immediately starts bouncing off of the planet endlessly*

Brilliant, now we can finally destroy france.

Nephew Twiddleton

France is awesome.

Also i have an idea about perpetual motion engines for cars by facing the north pole of a magnet against another north pole of another magnet. We should build this together tb.
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Sir Bearington

Quote from: Bruce Twiddleton on July 25, 2012, 05:23:03 PM
France is awesome.

Also i have an idea about perpetual motion engines for cars by facing the north pole of a magnet against another north pole of another magnet. We should build this together tb.

Make your own thread instead of hijacking mine.

Jerk.

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Sir Bearington

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 25, 2012, 06:04:49 PM
I HAVE AN IDEA ABOUT HARNESSING STATIC ELECTRICITY AND USING IT TO POWER TRAINS.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA WHY NOT WHILE WE ARE AT IT MAKE A CAR ENGINE THAT RUNS ON PETROL!

Freeky

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Im a skinny sonofagun, i don't hardly have a ass.

You're fucked forever.

Apparently having no ass or a reduced ass is a sign of powerful thrusting.

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Sir Bearington

Quote from: v3x on July 25, 2012, 10:51:02 PM
THE IDEA PROPOSED IN THE O.P. IS PREPOSTEROUS. Mostly, this is because of physics, with a goodly portion of its impossibility being attributable to logistics. I say this not because I am a brilliant physicist, or because I have mastered all the myriad arguments against this idea, but because if such a thing were possible, Congress would have prohibited it by now.

Nothing would get done if people just said that something no matter how blatent was impossible.

Tell that to the revolutionary inventors, scientists and engineers who pushed the boundaries of what we know in the name of progress.

Freeky

Quote from: Sir Bearington on July 25, 2012, 11:06:32 PM

Nothing would get done if people just said that something no matter how blatent was impossible.


Blatantly what?