Excuse me while I vomit.- Trigger Warning for Rape and Rape Culture.

[Pope Pixie Pickle]

http://jezebel.com/5929544/rapists-explain-themselves-on-reddit-and-we-should-listen?comment=51346779

This article and the Reddit part that it links to makes me want to puke, and stabbinate someone.  Do some people really have no empathy or conciousness of what is consent? Well, obviously.

I had the idea for a rant about why we need to teach every teenager what constitutes consent and what is sexually inappropriate behaviour, and holy fuckballs, we need it like we need vaccines.

I'm just one person yelling against the tide, though, and as good as my ranting would make me feel, I'm not sure if I can do this the justice it deserves today.

If you are feeling brave and your rage gland needs oiling, go to the links to the actual Reddit discussion. Mine got so big it sprang a slow leak.

[Luna]

Fucking hell.

[The Dark Monk]

I can't finish reading this. I feel a need for a break.

[Pæs]

Do you disagree with the article or mainly the idea that the Reddit thread offers sympathy to rapists?

Eta: or any of the other rage-inducing parts of this situation, because that sounded like I thought there were only two.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Not sure I can even stand looking at that shit right now.

[Sleeper]

It's utterly infuriating.
I find this nearly impossible to read.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

That was a really good article, and I felt it made some good headway into explaining why demonizing and dehumanizing rapists only serves to perpetuate rape culture, much the same way that demonizing and dehumanizing women does. It's only when men and women can meet and relate as fellow human beings that rape stops. We victimize those we can't relate to.

[Placid Dingo]

Yeah the article itself was brilliant.

I read one or two linked accounts. Fucking hell.

[The Dark Monk]

Agreed it was a good article, but also a disgusting one. I had to watch a movie in between to finish it. I read a few of the stories as well, and they truly do range from drunken retardation to power trips, to some serious reality disassociation. Some caught themselves about halfway through and were like, "Oh shit this is wrong!" and others were "Hell yeah TAKE THAT BITCH". The scariest part of it is that at the end of the article the man speaking explained that you'd never know it was him. He's simply your neighbor, and goes into the Fun Loving Criminals category. He's going to post about bacon and cats and you're none the wiser. It's hard to see any decency in what you call "The Human Race." Though I do imagine even after all of that, there is worse, i.e. someone who fanatically reads them to live out a fantasy.

[Murmur]

Flashbacks. Not cool. 

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

That was a really good article, and I felt it made some good headway into explaining why demonizing and dehumanizing rapists only serves to perpetuate rape culture, much the same way that demonizing and dehumanizing women does. It's only when men and women can meet and relate as fellow human beings that rape stops. We victimize those we can't relate to.

Finally thought to use the cell and got it to load. And yeah, maybe some of these guys are just dense:

Agreed it was a good article, but also a disgusting one. I had to watch a movie in between to finish it. I read a few of the stories as well, and they truly do range from drunken retardation to power trips, to some serious reality disassociation. Some caught themselves about halfway through and were like, "Oh shit this is wrong!"

others are sociopaths and don't give a rat's ass:

and others were "Hell yeah TAKE THAT BITCH".

You can't talk things out with sociopaths and expect anything to actually come of it. This isn't demonizing, it's just how it is. And you don't know who the sociopaths are until the damage is done:

The scariest part of it is that at the end of the article the man speaking explained that you'd never know it was him. He's simply your neighbor, and goes into the Fun Loving Criminals category. He's going to post about bacon and cats and you're none the wiser. It's hard to see any decency in what you call "The Human Race." Though I do imagine even after all of that, there is worse, i.e. someone who fanatically reads them to live out a fantasy.

On a side note, I thought this part was interesting:

"At about 16 I was exposed to a lot of PUA material, which (not having a father or mother really around) shaped my life until I was about 20. Most of the material was very objectifying and sexually aggressive towards women."

But anyway, yeah. Having the conversations could help in some cases, at least.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

I'm probably not in the mindset to read this article, based on the reactions so far.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

I'm probably not in the mindset to read this article, based on the reactions so far.

Maybe the question is whether enough people have the stomach to talk it out enough for it to help anybody. Seriously puke-inducing, disturbing shit.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

I'm probably not in the mindset to read this article, based on the reactions so far.

Maybe the question is whether enough people have the stomach to talk it out enough for it to help anybody. Seriously puke-inducing, disturbing shit.

I'm not sober. I should probably wait.

[Pope Pixie Pickle]

Flashbacks. Not cool. 

Sorry Murmur. In a feminist space I would have put a massive TRIGGER WARNING on the whole thing.

In fact I'm going to go back and put one in the thread title now. I considered it before posting, but I wasn't sure if PeeDee needed them. Now I know we do. Sorry again, hon.