A Bit of History, Made Easily Understandable for Today's Citizenry.

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Nephew Twiddleton

#30
August 03, 2012, 04:24:02 PM
Not to be off topic but when did yatto start making sense?
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#31
August 03, 2012, 07:55:02 PM
:lulz: Good question.

Quote from: Bu☆ns on August 03, 2012, 04:02:59 PM
So what's next?  Do we just accept the current state of things as 'business as usual'?  It would be amazing to me if we could somehow change the current system to thrive on cooperation rather than corporation.  The consensus, it seems, is that the System is just too big and out of control and that any dissent or change just gets absorbed or consumed. 

So we are just, in short, fucked at birth?
Enough changes in the machine add up.

Which is really to say there needs to be a lot of people all over the place willing to disrupt the machine and be eaten in the process to change it.
Which is also to say that things will have to get a lot worse first.
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P3nT4gR4m

#32
August 03, 2012, 09:06:45 PM
I've been thinking about this thread and the one about things being better than in the good old days and I just thought of something. The machine isn't fixable. It can't work. Yet. The machine isn't some third party, sentient, lumbering thing, in an of itself, even though it may present emergent characteristics, at times, which make it easy to view things that way. No. The machine is merely an extension of us. The machine doesn't work right because it's not actually a machine. That's just a metaphor, or a map if you like. The "Machine" is merely the resulting clusterfuck that occurs when a bunch of monkeys get real fucking smart (but not quite smart enough) to take over the world and fashion a makeshift utopia on the bones of other monkeys who weren't fortunate enough to make it to the promised land.

The machine might work one day but the monkeys will have to be a lot smarter before that happens. En masse. Right now it aint workable. Maybe one day we'll all get smarter. Maybe not. Maybe Idiocracy is on the way.

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The Good Reverend Roger

#33
August 03, 2012, 09:09:08 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 03, 2012, 09:06:45 PM
I've been thinking about this thread and the one about things being better than in the good old days and I just thought of something. The machine isn't fixable. It can't work. Yet. The machine isn't some third party, sentient, lumbering thing, in an of itself, even though it may present emergent characteristics, at times, which make it easy to view things that way. No. The machine is merely an extension of us. The machine doesn't work right because it's not actually a machine. That's just a metaphor, or a map if you like. The "Machine" is merely the resulting clusterfuck that occurs when a bunch of monkeys get real fucking smart (but not quite smart enough) to take over the world and fashion a makeshift utopia on the bones of other monkeys who weren't fortunate enough to make it to the promised land.

The machine might work one day but the monkeys will have to be a lot smarter before that happens. En masse. Right now it aint workable. Maybe one day we'll all get smarter. Maybe not. Maybe Idiocracy is on the way.

Humans get dumber with civilization.  Cities breed for disease resistance, nomads breed for intelligence.

The only way to make a smarter monkey is to take all his toys away.

Problem is, you lose a LOT of monkeys when that happens, and the smart survivors will simply start building back towards civilization, and become dumb again.
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P3nT4gR4m

#34
August 03, 2012, 09:14:16 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on August 03, 2012, 09:09:08 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 03, 2012, 09:06:45 PM
I've been thinking about this thread and the one about things being better than in the good old days and I just thought of something. The machine isn't fixable. It can't work. Yet. The machine isn't some third party, sentient, lumbering thing, in an of itself, even though it may present emergent characteristics, at times, which make it easy to view things that way. No. The machine is merely an extension of us. The machine doesn't work right because it's not actually a machine. That's just a metaphor, or a map if you like. The "Machine" is merely the resulting clusterfuck that occurs when a bunch of monkeys get real fucking smart (but not quite smart enough) to take over the world and fashion a makeshift utopia on the bones of other monkeys who weren't fortunate enough to make it to the promised land.

The machine might work one day but the monkeys will have to be a lot smarter before that happens. En masse. Right now it aint workable. Maybe one day we'll all get smarter. Maybe not. Maybe Idiocracy is on the way.

Humans get dumber with civilization.  Cities breed for disease resistance, nomads breed for intelligence.

The only way to make a smarter monkey is to take all his toys away.

Problem is, you lose a LOT of monkeys when that happens, and the smart survivors will simply start building back towards civilization, and become dumb again.

I can see it panning out like that, yeah, but I don't see it as set in stone. I see other potentials. Of course if you wanted me to put money on it, I'd have to back - endless cycle of retarded :lulz:

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

The Good Reverend Roger

#35
August 03, 2012, 09:23:27 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 03, 2012, 09:14:16 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on August 03, 2012, 09:09:08 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 03, 2012, 09:06:45 PM
I've been thinking about this thread and the one about things being better than in the good old days and I just thought of something. The machine isn't fixable. It can't work. Yet. The machine isn't some third party, sentient, lumbering thing, in an of itself, even though it may present emergent characteristics, at times, which make it easy to view things that way. No. The machine is merely an extension of us. The machine doesn't work right because it's not actually a machine. That's just a metaphor, or a map if you like. The "Machine" is merely the resulting clusterfuck that occurs when a bunch of monkeys get real fucking smart (but not quite smart enough) to take over the world and fashion a makeshift utopia on the bones of other monkeys who weren't fortunate enough to make it to the promised land.

The machine might work one day but the monkeys will have to be a lot smarter before that happens. En masse. Right now it aint workable. Maybe one day we'll all get smarter. Maybe not. Maybe Idiocracy is on the way.

Humans get dumber with civilization.  Cities breed for disease resistance, nomads breed for intelligence.

The only way to make a smarter monkey is to take all his toys away.

Problem is, you lose a LOT of monkeys when that happens, and the smart survivors will simply start building back towards civilization, and become dumb again.

I can see it panning out like that, yeah, but I don't see it as set in stone. I see other potentials. Of course if you wanted me to put money on it, I'd have to back - endless cycle of retarded :lulz:

We've had three dark ages, of varying length.  The second-worst one followed the plague pandemic, and damn near erased civilization.

But here we are.  Derp!
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

BabylonHoruv

#36
August 03, 2012, 09:33:19 PM
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on August 03, 2012, 02:48:54 AM
Today I saw a bunch of cops wearing jackets emblazoned "GANG ENFORCEMENT" searching a couple cars outside of a convenience store.

They might as well just change those labels to "BLACK ENFORCEMENT". Truth in advertising and all.

Or, to look at it another way, they are the enforcement arm of the gang known as the state..
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The Good Reverend Roger

#37
August 03, 2012, 09:39:33 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on August 03, 2012, 09:33:19 PM
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on August 03, 2012, 02:48:54 AM
Today I saw a bunch of cops wearing jackets emblazoned "GANG ENFORCEMENT" searching a couple cars outside of a convenience store.

They might as well just change those labels to "BLACK ENFORCEMENT". Truth in advertising and all.

Or, to look at it another way, they are the enforcement arm of the gang known as the state..

FLAG ON THE FIELD.

10 yard penalty for gratuitous hackeyed cliche usage.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#38
August 04, 2012, 01:19:04 AM
Quote from: Bruce Twiddleton on August 03, 2012, 04:24:02 PM
Not to be off topic but when did yatto start making sense?

What if it's not that he's making more sense, but that you've started to understand him?
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#39
August 04, 2012, 03:47:06 AM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on August 03, 2012, 09:39:33 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on August 03, 2012, 09:33:19 PM
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on August 03, 2012, 02:48:54 AM
Today I saw a bunch of cops wearing jackets emblazoned "GANG ENFORCEMENT" searching a couple cars outside of a convenience store.

They might as well just change those labels to "BLACK ENFORCEMENT". Truth in advertising and all.

Or, to look at it another way, they are the enforcement arm of the gang known as the state..

FLAG ON THE FIELD.

10 yard penalty for gratuitous hackeyed cliche usage.


Not "TEH STATE".

Though our high law enforcement here has traditionally had Bandidos running meth labs for them, and/or ties to the cartels. 
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#40
August 04, 2012, 04:03:42 AM
Quote from: Bruce Twiddleton on August 03, 2012, 04:24:02 PM
Not to be off topic but when did yatto start making sense?

Yatto didn't make sense?
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The Good Reverend Roger

#41
August 04, 2012, 02:02:40 PM
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on August 04, 2012, 01:19:04 AM
Quote from: Bruce Twiddleton on August 03, 2012, 04:24:02 PM
Not to be off topic but when did yatto start making sense?

What if it's not that he's making more sense, but that you've started to understand him?

Then one day we'll all understand what Hirley0 is saying, and then accidentally apocalypse.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#42
August 04, 2012, 09:13:30 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on August 04, 2012, 02:02:40 PM
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on August 04, 2012, 01:19:04 AM
Quote from: Bruce Twiddleton on August 03, 2012, 04:24:02 PM
Not to be off topic but when did yatto start making sense?

What if it's not that he's making more sense, but that you've started to understand him?

Then one day we'll all understand what Hirley0 is saying, and then accidentally apocalypse.

IT'S ALREADY BEGUN!
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Reginald Ret

#43
August 06, 2012, 04:51:45 PM
My colleague said something interesting today.
He said that the succesful landing of the newest mars rover gave him faith in the possibility of conspiracies.
Normally we assume that conspiracy theories are unlikely because humans aren't smart or cooperative enough to work together to save their lives, let alone run a secret organization.
This made me think of the one situation in which human society can improve without building on the bones of their ancestors and that is when they go to other places and pillage build up their society there.
So let's go to mars and cause wanton ecological disaster there! maybe humanity will pull together and learn new techniques of not killing eachother.
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#44
August 06, 2012, 04:56:48 PM
Quote from: :regret: on August 06, 2012, 04:51:45 PM
My colleague said something interesting today.
He said that the succesful landing of the newest mars rover gave him faith in the possibility of conspiracies.
Normally we assume that conspiracy theories are unlikely because humans aren't smart or cooperative enough to work together to save their lives, let alone run a secret organization.
This made me think of the one situation in which human society can improve without building on the bones of their ancestors and that is when they go to other places and pillage build up their society there.
So let's go to mars and cause wanton ecological disaster there! maybe humanity will pull together and learn new techniques of not killing eachother.

Ecological disaster implies an ecology.

There is no current ecology on Mars.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.
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