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Don't get me wrong, I greatly appreciate the fact that you're at least putting effort into sincerely arguing your points. It's an argument I've enjoyed having. It's just that your points are wrong and your reasons for thinking they're right are stupid.

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Started by Pope Pixie Pickle, August 07, 2012, 11:33:24 AM

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True. Love works for gothic romances and shit. Not comedies.
Try telling the networks that, though.

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Faust

Quote from: stelz on April 02, 2013, 11:45:17 PM
True. Love works for gothic romances and shit. Not comedies.
Try telling the networks that, though.

There are exceptions: Chocolate, 10 things I hate about you to name a couple. The difference is some thought goes into them as opposed to the tick the boxes formula movies using the tried and tested tropes to bring in the cash.

hrm... 10 things I hate about you was a modern retelling of the Taming of the shrew, a Shakespearian comedy, the male lead isn't an oaf but the wife is the epitome of a anti feminist trope: The shrew, If I'm right it's actually where the derogatory use of that word for a woman came from.
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Anna Mae Bollocks

Quote from: Faust on April 02, 2013, 11:52:51 PM
Quote from: stelz on April 02, 2013, 11:45:17 PM
True. Love works for gothic romances and shit. Not comedies.
Try telling the networks that, though.

There are exceptions: Chocolate, 10 things I hate about you to name a couple. The difference is some thought goes into them as opposed to the tick the boxes formula movies using the tried and tested tropes to bring in the cash.

Well yeah, and some of the Jean Harlow stuff. They managed not to make Gable totally oafish, but Gable was NUTS. Pitched fits and insisted on doing his own stunts his whole life. (That's really him getting dragged by a mustang in The Misfits, and he was old. Died soon after.) So maybe it was his own doing.  :lol:

Romantic comedy is a mostly-lost art, though, IMHO.

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hrm... 10 things I hate about you was a modern retelling of the Taming of the shrew, a Shakespearian comedy, the male lead isn't an oaf but the wife is the epitome of a anti feminist trope: The shrew, If I'm right it's actually where the derogatory use of that word for a woman came from.

Haven't seen it, but Shakespeare is pretty good source material. That probably had a lot to do with it not sucking.
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Faust

He was and he was a positive role model, he is shown as quirky but never stupid. Part of the humour of the show was how old fashioned he was which was partly the "laugh at the dinosaur" trope, but normally his advice generally paid off for the people who used it.
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Quote from: 🅵🅰🆄🆂🆃 on April 03, 2013, 08:39:34 AM
He was and he was a positive role model, he is shown as quirky but never stupid. Part of the humour of the show was how old fashioned he was which was partly the "laugh at the dinosaur" trope, but normally his advice generally paid off for the people who used it.

Hi past Faust, don't mean to upset you but, one by one any of the people you have respected as role models will let you down, you should probably stop having any now.
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Quote from: 🅵🅰🆄🆂🆃 on November 27, 2014, 05:50:11 PM
Quote from: 🅵🅰🆄🆂🆃 on April 03, 2013, 08:39:34 AM
He was and he was a positive role model, he is shown as quirky but never stupid. Part of the humour of the show was how old fashioned he was which was partly the "laugh at the dinosaur" trope, but normally his advice generally paid off for the people who used it.

Hi past Faust, don't mean to upset you but, one by one any of the people you have respected as role models will let you down, you should probably stop having any now.

Yep. Dammit.
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Quote from: Faust on April 02, 2013, 10:46:38 PM
The portrayal of men on television as the leader of a family especially in comedy shows is always as a blundering oaf (Simpsons, Family guy, American dad),  or menacing threatening figure (Primarily when the show is from the point of view of teen child of the family).

The father from American Dad really fits both those categories, not just the first one.
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Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on December 07, 2014, 03:14:14 PM
Quote from: Faust on April 02, 2013, 10:46:38 PM
The portrayal of men on television as the leader of a family especially in comedy shows is always as a blundering oaf (Simpsons, Family guy, American dad),  or menacing threatening figure (Primarily when the show is from the point of view of teen child of the family).

The father from American Dad really fits both those categories, not just the first one.

Depending on the episode yes, there are plenty of Stan V's family member episodes and those are the only ones he is competent in.
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