Ritual Purge: school to prison pipeline

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Inmate of the Month. 

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

This country is so profoundly fucked up that I honestly don't know whether we're going to dig out of it. I used to think we would, but things just keep going from "intolerable" to "even worse" and I'm not seeing any sign that they're going to turn around, ever. I think it's just going to ride this train until it runs out of tracks.

The free market will provide more tracks.

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[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

This country is so profoundly fucked up that I honestly don't know whether we're going to dig out of it. I used to think we would, but things just keep going from "intolerable" to "even worse" and I'm not seeing any sign that they're going to turn around, ever. I think it's just going to ride this train until it runs out of tracks.

The free market will provide more tracks.

[GrannySmith]

You're not a naive idiot. People in Germany don't get a front row seat to all this. A lot of it's a Land Of The Free^{(TM) thing.}

Yes, this is a freedom thing, and socialist Euros just don't get it.

I'm afraid the land of the free^(TM) is bringing lots of its money making ideas freedom techniques over here... after a short search i found this:
http://www.atlantic-times.com/archive_detail.php?recordID=876
but at the moment can't find any more details on how that is going...
scary  considering that around europe they start jailing people for not paying their debts... and there's LOTS of those around...   
i just hope the germans still remember who started "work camps" and react before it's established.

[Cain]

I don't know that much about the US schools, I particularly get upset by the school system here in Germany, where at the age of 10-11 you are classified as either 'totally stupid', 'plain stupid' and 'not so stupid' - and sent to the respective school to be a fully functioning part of the respective social class.

Yeah, that aspect of the German education system is more than just a little worrying.  It seems the kind of thing designed to bring about a stratified social class system, especially given the determinents of learning at that age being mostly parental income.  You get your worker drones, you get your technical, skilled people and then you get your overclass.

See in the UK, we have a simplified system, whereby having the wrong sort of accent and not going the right (private) schools means exceptionally low chances of going to the three or so Universities which act as giant feeder mechanisms for the main two political parties.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

You're not a naive idiot. People in Germany don't get a front row seat to all this. A lot of it's a Land Of The Free^{(TM) thing.}

Yes, this is a freedom thing, and socialist Euros just don't get it.

I'm afraid the land of the free^(TM) is bringing lots of its money making ideas freedom techniques over here... after a short search i found this:
http://www.atlantic-times.com/archive_detail.php?recordID=876
but at the moment can't find any more details on how that is going...
scary  considering that around europe they start jailing people for not paying their debts... and there's LOTS of those around...   
i just hope the germans still remember who started "work camps" and react before it's established.

Germany still has money, I think. Everybody talks a nice line about "never forget" but when they start going in the hole it'll be US-style "ENSLAVE! ENSLAVE! ENSLAVE!", I'm guessing.

[Cainad (dec.)]

I don't know that much about the US schools, I particularly get upset by the school system here in Germany, where at the age of 10-11 you are classified as either 'totally stupid', 'plain stupid' and 'not so stupid' - and sent to the respective school to be a fully functioning part of the respective social class.

Yeah, that aspect of the German education system is more than just a little worrying.  It seems the kind of thing designed to bring about a stratified social class system, especially given the determinents of learning at that age being mostly parental income.  You get your worker drones, you get your technical, skilled people and then you get your overclass.

See in the UK, we have a simplified system, whereby having the wrong sort of accent and not going the right (private) schools means exceptionally low chances of going to the three or so Universities which act as giant feeder mechanisms for the main two political parties.

How ridiculous! Why not just let The Free Market naturally weed out students who were dumb enough to be born poor, so that the clever ones can go to the top universities?

[GrannySmith]

Germany still has money, I think. Everybody talks a nice line about "never forget" but when they start going in the hole it'll be US-style "ENSLAVE! ENSLAVE! ENSLAVE!", I'm guessing.

the german government sure has money, they made sure they're with the winners in the euro crisis:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/100698620

What is more, governments in Germany, Finland, Austria, the Netherlands and France have saved billions of euros thanks to a sharp fall in how much they pay to raise money in financial markets since their borrowing costs have dropped steeply.

but not that they don't like to enslave the people here too, they just do it differently:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/08/us-germany-jobs-idUSTRE8170P120120208

Pay in Germany, which has no nationwide minimum wage, can go well below one euro an hour, especially in the former communist east German states.

[GrannySmith]

See in the UK, we have a simplified system, whereby having the wrong sort of accent and not going the right (private) schools means exceptionally low chances of going to the three or so Universities which act as giant feeder mechanisms for the main two political parties.

it's horrible either way they do it... i remember a few years back when i visited the uk a lot, on noticing the obvious class system i was told they don't even really mingle... in the sense that people from one "class" are unlikely to have friends in other "classes". fucked up situation everywhere. i try to stay optimistic - at least people get upset about it nowadays. ?

[Roly Poly Oly-Garch]

Just read this. Happened two years ago, but news to me.

http://www.allgov.com/news/controversies/judge-sentenced-to-28-years-in-prison-for-selling-kids-to-private-prisons?news=843116

Accused of perpetrating a "profound evil," former Pennsylvania judge Mark Ciavarella Jr. has been sentenced to 28 years in prison for illegally accepting money from a juvenile-prison developer while he spent years incarcerating thousands of young people.
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Among the young people exploited by Ciavarella were 15-year-old Hillary Transue, who was sentenced to three months at a juvenile detention center for mocking an assistant principal on a MySpace page; and 13-year-old Shane Bly, who was sent to a boot camp for two weekends after being accused of trespassing in a vacant building.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Just read this. Happened two years ago, but news to me.

http://www.allgov.com/news/controversies/judge-sentenced-to-28-years-in-prison-for-selling-kids-to-private-prisons?news=843116

Accused of perpetrating a "profound evil," former Pennsylvania judge Mark Ciavarella Jr. has been sentenced to 28 years in prison for illegally accepting money from a juvenile-prison developer while he spent years incarcerating thousands of young people.
...
Among the young people exploited by Ciavarella were 15-year-old Hillary Transue, who was sentenced to three months at a juvenile detention center for mocking an assistant principal on a MySpace page; and 13-year-old Shane Bly, who was sent to a boot camp for two weekends after being accused of trespassing in a vacant building.

Not the only one, either. There was some shit going down in Washington county, too.

[Cain]

http://www.courthousenews.com/2013/05/07/57383.htm

After a diabetic high school student fell asleep in study hall, the school police officer slammed her face into a filing cabinet, arrested her and took her to jail, she claims in court.

Tieshka Avery claims she was so violently abused that she vomited in the police car. And all because she fell asleep reading "Huckleberry Finn."

(Public school districts in the South have been accused of operating de facto "school to jail" programs, targeting minority students for arrest for minor infractions. The ACLU and the federal government have filed lawsuits alleging the practice. See below.)

[Junkenstein]

I assume the officer was there to protect the other children from this dangerous individual. We are all aware of the link between diabetes and extremism after all.

"As a result of a combination of Ashlynn's chronic medical conditions, including sleep apnea, Type II diabetes, and asthma, Ashlynn dozed off during ISS.
     "Joshua Whited, the ISS supervisor, noticed that Ashlynn had dozed off, walked to her cubicle and struck the cubicle with his hand, causing the cubicle to hit Ashlynn's head, waking her up.
     "Ashlynn returned to reading 'Huckleberry Finn.'
     "Once again, Ashlynn dozed off.
     "While she was sleeping, Whited took the book from her, slammed the book onto the desk, causing the book to bounce and hit Ashlynn in the chest."
     Ashlynn claims she was told to leave the room, and called her mother, and that "while Ashlynn was hysterical, speaking with her mother and walking down the hall, Officer Christopher Bryan [sic], who was behind her, made aggressive contact against her by slapping her backpack."
     The complaint continues: "Ashlynn, not knowing who was behind her, said 'Leave me alone'.
     "While still on the phone with her mother, Officer Bryant proceeded to shove Ashlynn face first into a file cabinet and handcuff her.
     "Ashlynn was taken to the police station.
     "On the ride to the police station, Ashlynn, due to her emotional state, vomited in the car."

This makes more sense. It's not reasonable to expect de-facto parents to be aware of potential medical complications. If you cared about one, you'd have to care about them all.

In November last year, the federal government sued the Meridian, Miss., Public School District, claiming it operates a "school-to-prison" pipeline, hauling students off to juvenile detention centers for offenses such as disrespect and profanity.

Glad to see that amendment is working out well. The NRA call for armed guards in schools appears to have already occurred in some instances. Why else was the cop there?

[Cainad (dec.)]

Having a school security officer on the premises is very common, if not universal in the States. Article does not state whether or not the officer was armed, but he likely was. Again, common practice (Columbine had an armed security officer on duty at the time, too).

Having them abuse sick kids and target them for arrest for complete non-crimes is not so common, or at least I thought so.