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Ritual Purge: school to prison pipeline

Started by Anna Mae Bollocks, August 11, 2012, 08:11:52 PM

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Cain

Quote from: Emo Howard on August 13, 2012, 08:45:37 PM
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on August 13, 2012, 08:31:33 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 13, 2012, 07:58:58 PM
Prison is the only place these youngsters are going to learn valuable life skills about how the world really works, especially in Mississippi.  I say we applaud this forward thinking from government.

I'm waiting to see if this generation is going to get pissed, or "get with the program".

Some of both, I'm sure. Though getting pissed often just means dropping out of society and getting high a lot because, you know, the man hates it when you do that.

Hey, it worked for Hasan-i-Sabbah.

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Quote from: Junkenstein on August 12, 2012, 10:39:58 PM
In other news, UK politicians mocked for suggesting prisoners should work call centre style jobs, for 40 hours a week.

"To make them more employable"


Prison increasingly seems an inevitability for many, rather than a punishment for few.

That's how it was sold and is continuing to be sold here:

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The breaded chicken patty your child bites into at school may have been made by a worker earning twenty cents an hour, not in a faraway country, but by a member of an invisible American workforce: prisoners. At the Union Correctional Facility, a maximum security prison in Florida, inmates from a nearby lower-security prison manufacture tons of processed beef, chicken and pork for Prison Rehabilitative Industries and Diversified Enterprises (PRIDE), a privately held non-profit corporation that operates the state's forty-one work programs. In addition to processed food, PRIDE's website reveals an array of products for sale through contracts with private companies, from eyeglasses to office furniture, to be shipped from a distribution center in Florida to businesses across the US. PRIDE boasts that its work programs are "designed to provide vocational training, to improve prison security, to reduce the cost of state government, and to promote the rehabilitation of the state inmates."

http://www.thenation.com/article/162478/hidden-history-alec-and-prison-labor#
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Bruno

Quote from: Cain on August 13, 2012, 11:30:59 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on August 13, 2012, 08:45:37 PM
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on August 13, 2012, 08:31:33 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 13, 2012, 07:58:58 PM
Prison is the only place these youngsters are going to learn valuable life skills about how the world really works, especially in Mississippi.  I say we applaud this forward thinking from government.

I'm waiting to see if this generation is going to get pissed, or "get with the program".

Some of both, I'm sure. Though getting pissed often just means dropping out of society and getting high a lot because, you know, the man hates it when you do that.

Hey, it worked for Hasan-i-Sabbah.


Fair enough.
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Bruno

Quote from: Net on August 14, 2012, 02:29:36 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 12, 2012, 10:39:58 PM
In other news, UK politicians mocked for suggesting prisoners should work call centre style jobs, for 40 hours a week.

"To make them more employable"


Prison increasingly seems an inevitability for many, rather than a punishment for few.

That's how it was sold and is continuing to be sold here:

Quote
The breaded chicken patty your child bites into at school may have been made by a worker earning twenty cents an hour, not in a faraway country, but by a member of an invisible American workforce: prisoners. At the Union Correctional Facility, a maximum security prison in Florida, inmates from a nearby lower-security prison manufacture tons of processed beef, chicken and pork for Prison Rehabilitative Industries and Diversified Enterprises (PRIDE), a privately held non-profit corporation that operates the state's forty-one work programs. In addition to processed food, PRIDE's website reveals an array of products for sale through contracts with private companies, from eyeglasses to office furniture, to be shipped from a distribution center in Florida to businesses across the US. PRIDE boasts that its work programs are "designed to provide vocational training, to improve prison security, to reduce the cost of state government, and to promote the rehabilitation of the state inmates."

http://www.thenation.com/article/162478/hidden-history-alec-and-prison-labor#

I'm sure no one in the business is thinking how much more profitable docile, non-violent inmates criminals workers equipment is than the kind that requires close (expensive) supervision.
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Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on August 13, 2012, 08:31:33 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 13, 2012, 07:58:58 PM
Prison is the only place these youngsters are going to learn valuable life skills about how the world really works, especially in Mississippi.  I say we applaud this forward thinking from government.

I'm waiting to see if this generation is going to get pissed, or "get with the program".

On mayday I got split off from the main group of demonstrators and started walking with these ladies who were on a side mission. Not sure where they were headed but they were carrying signs that called out a few of the major players in the for-profit prison system. Their signs were huge and their gripe was obvious to anybody who gave half a shit to look..other than the couple of honks they got from people who like to honk approval from demonstrators the only reaction to them that I saw was a couple few "in the know" youngsters who took the time to point out the Starbucks cups they were holding made them hypocrites...you know, because drinking corporate coffee disqualifies anything you have to say about incarcerating people to turn a quick buck.

I can't say that I'm optimistic.
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Quote from: NoLeDeMiel on August 14, 2012, 05:38:17 PM
the only reaction to them that I saw was a couple few "in the know" youngsters who took the time to point out the Starbucks cups they were holding made them hypocrites...you know, because drinking corporate coffee disqualifies anything you have to say about incarcerating people to turn a quick buck.

Are they aware that every bean they can get is "corporate"?   :lulz:

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Are they aware that's all there is? Because that makes purists even funnier.
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GlompChomp

Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on August 12, 2012, 09:46:55 PM
Quote from: Dear Departed Uncle Nigel on August 12, 2012, 07:46:16 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on August 12, 2012, 06:29:51 PM
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Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on August 12, 2012, 06:02:33 PM
Quote"Furthermore," it continues, "children on probation are routinely arrested and incarcerated for allegedly violating their probation by committing minor school infractions, such as dress code violations, which result in suspensions. The department's investigation showed that students most affected by this system are African-American children and children with disabilities."

I am shocked.  Shocked, I tell you.

YEAH BUT RACISM AND EQUAL RIGHTS ISN'T REALLY AN ISSUE ANYMORE



LOLOLOLOLOL  :horrormirth:

It's better than it was...Not so long ago, this would have been ignored.  Not long before that, it would have been considered right & proper.

Things have a long, long way to go, but it seems to be wheezing its way in the right direction.

It is better than it was, but I'm always astounded by the number of people who honestly think that race-based discrimination just isn't an issue anymore.

Yes, that's because Americans have difficulty with the idea that "better" is different than "FIXED".

It occurs to me that damn near everything Americans do is based on false dichotomies.


This very thing once really tickled my noggin. It seems to be more than a base of false dichotomies at work, take a look at the most basic systems of regulation and measurement that are employed in America. For instance, America is the only modern country not using the metric system, we drive on opposite sides of the road compared to all other modern nations, our schools are entirely focused on a sort of factory floor process designed to process children at a faster and faster rate and, well there are more examples of these oddities but there's something of occult significance to it.

I think that each one of these little oddities is a microcosm of the macrocosmic agenda so its grand design could be intuited from a slivery section of the madness.

Driving with the driver on the left side puts the stress of oncoming traffic on the right side of the brain (due to the crisscrossing right hemisphere rules the left side of the body, left hemisphere rules the right side). Turning left is a more risky maneuver always and the subconscious mind knows this because it is turning into potentially oncoming traffic (turning left on a 2 way street involves crossing into the lane for oncoming traffic).

There's something to this shit, something involving the two hemispheres of the brain and reorientation of the natural 'spin' of life. I believe the refusal of the metric system by and large is part of it. Hell, probably everything is part of it.

Thoughts?

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widdly scuds

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Cain

QuoteFor instance, America is the only modern country not using the metric system, we drive on opposite sides of the road compared to all other modern nations, our schools are entirely focused on a sort of factory floor process designed to process children at a faster and faster rate

Uh, you may have heard of a country called the United Kingdom?


Juana

"I dispose of obsolete meat machines.  Not because I hate them (I do) and not because they deserve it (they do), but because they are in the way and those older ones don't meet emissions codes.  They emit too much.  You don't like them and I don't like them, so spare me the hysteria."

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: NoLeDeMiel on August 14, 2012, 05:38:17 PM
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on August 13, 2012, 08:31:33 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 13, 2012, 07:58:58 PM
Prison is the only place these youngsters are going to learn valuable life skills about how the world really works, especially in Mississippi.  I say we applaud this forward thinking from government.

I'm waiting to see if this generation is going to get pissed, or "get with the program".

On mayday I got split off from the main group of demonstrators and started walking with these ladies who were on a side mission. Not sure where they were headed but they were carrying signs that called out a few of the major players in the for-profit prison system. Their signs were huge and their gripe was obvious to anybody who gave half a shit to look..other than the couple of honks they got from people who like to honk approval from demonstrators the only reaction to them that I saw was a couple few "in the know" youngsters who took the time to point out the Starbucks cups they were holding made them hypocrites...you know, because drinking corporate coffee disqualifies anything you have to say about incarcerating people to turn a quick buck.

I can't say that I'm optimistic.

:horrormirth:

Also, while the corporate economy fosters evil, that doesn't mean that all corporations are evil.

Man, people need to learn about shades of gray.
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GlompChomp

Quote from: Cain on August 15, 2012, 01:04:12 AM
QuoteFor instance, America is the only modern country not using the metric system, we drive on opposite sides of the road compared to all other modern nations, our schools are entirely focused on a sort of factory floor process designed to process children at a faster and faster rate

Uh, you may have heard of a country called the United Kingdom?

THEY DO ALL THAT ARE YOU KIDDING ME  :argh!:
widdly scuds

I stretch my penis in a saltwater toffee maker every Tuesday and Saturday.

Cain

In the UK, they drive on the left, despite the majority of the world driving on the right.

In theory, metrification started in the 1960s, in practice, children are still taught imperial units at school, road signs are in miles and most volumes are in imperial units as well.

Schooling in the UK is increasingly a war between bored students, bored teachers, bored OFSTED officials and maniacally insane MPs who want to teach the most boring and useless subjects (such as Latin) all day, every day, as a means to "instill discipline" among schoolchildren.  In areas where Latin is unpopular, maths is preferred.  Maths, of course, is much more useful, but not to the point where it should be allowed to dominate a good 40% of all available teaching time.

The Johnny


There seems to be a trend in schools teaching worthless subjects rather than critical thinking, life skills or how to be an empathic citizen that aims for social equality.

Gee, it seems that students are being taught how to be good little drones that follow orders for corporate interests.

NAH, i must be getting the crazies, for fucking real.
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In UK we have a two tier education system. Comprehensive school is a factory that churns out proles. Then there's the ironically titled Public school which costs a lot of money and teaches societies chosen ones, how to best go about lording it over the unwashed masses. I don't know for sure but I have a sneaky suspicion that the "fact" that we are now a classless society is only taught in comprehensive schools.

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