In which I try and make a sound conclusion about the fighting recently.

[Freeky]

So, we're all surrounded by a bunch of people who Don't Get It, am I right?  Tell me I'm wrong.  At the very least, the people who just aren't seeing reality vastly outnumber the people who see, understand, and have accepted the reality we/you/people may or may not live in (rather than shoving their face skin back under their hats.  If you can't see it, it doesn't exist, yeah?).  That's one fact.

Here's another fact: From what I have observed, people like to be around people of the same awareness level.  It keeps the ostracizing to a minimum, and you get believed a lot more.  People in general like to be believed.  They like being right.  People who are dumber or less aware than an individual of a group might just write off the smarter/more aware person as less valid. 

Fact:  Strong personalities cause friction amongst themselves, even when they agree mostly.

Observation: Most people, ones who have not completely thrown off what I have seen as societal conditioning, will not explode at strangers or acquaintances.  Most people.  However, when there is a level of trust and understanding between good friends, arguments and fights may erupt from time to time.  These instances may become more frequent if both parties have strong personalities (see above).

Observation/Possible fact:  When people are stressed out, they want to blow up at the people or things or circumstances which are causing them stress.  However, this does not supercede the conditioning to remain polite and somewhat friendly to strangers and acquaintances, and letting off steam around people who don't take you seriously is worse than doing nothing about it.

Fact:  In most people (most, maybe even just many), stress that does not get released will be diverted unconsciously through another route.

Conclusion: The possibility exists that the feminism threads becoming so toxic is a combination of the above facts and observations.

I mean, maybe.  I could be wrong.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

That's reasonable, but incomplete.

Once people find The Cause (whatever it may be), they MUST drag everyone along with them...And then purge people based on their lack of adherence to The Cause.  The criteria for acceptance becomes narrower and narrower...And eventually one fine point is all it takes, and then the person with The Cause stops viewing the impure ones as human.

We've watched this happen to the republican party, and laughed.

Now we're watching it happen to us, and oddly enough, nobody is laughing.

[Freeky]

That's entirely possible.

I did see that behavior with Nigel, but Garbo has not yet said outright (or at least I didn't see it, I kind of lost track once things started getting awful) that you, personally, are a piece of shit because you disagreed with a point (that point being the privilege thing?), and in fact stated that she still has respect for you I think.  Neither has Pixie.  I don't identify as being a feminism activist, so I'm not sure I count, but I see your attempts at trying to better understand as extremely admirable, and you have even more of my respect than before, if that is indeed possible.

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At some point I found myself filtering for finer and finer points of disagreement, rather than looking for where we agree and what we can do with that.

I admit to knee-jerking to the Ism comments, because, well, you've got a point that I didn't want to deal with.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

At some point I found myself filtering for finer and finer points of disagreement, rather than looking for where we agree and what we can do with that.

I admit to knee-jerking to the Ism comments, because, well, you've got a point that I didn't want to deal with.

That shit happens to me all the time.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

That's entirely possible.

I did see that behavior with Nigel, but Garbo has not yet said outright (or at least I didn't see it, I kind of lost track once things started getting awful) that you, personally, are a piece of shit because you disagreed with a point (that point being the privilege thing?), and in fact stated that she still has respect for you I think.  Neither has Pixie.  I don't identify as being a feminism activist, so I'm not sure I count, but I see your attempts at trying to better understand as extremely admirable, and you have even more of my respect than before, if that is indeed possible.

Thank you.  But I'm still dead.

[Freeky]

That's entirely possible.

I did see that behavior with Nigel, but Garbo has not yet said outright (or at least I didn't see it, I kind of lost track once things started getting awful) that you, personally, are a piece of shit because you disagreed with a point (that point being the privilege thing?), and in fact stated that she still has respect for you I think.  Neither has Pixie.  I don't identify as being a feminism activist, so I'm not sure I count, but I see your attempts at trying to better understand as extremely admirable, and you have even more of my respect than before, if that is indeed possible.

Thank you.  But I'm still dead.

Me too.  Can we be dead together? 

[Freeky]

At some point I found myself filtering for finer and finer points of disagreement, rather than looking for where we agree and what we can do with that.

I admit to knee-jerking to the Ism comments, because, well, you've got a point that I didn't want to deal with.

Happens to everyone from time to time.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

That's entirely possible.

I did see that behavior with Nigel, but Garbo has not yet said outright (or at least I didn't see it, I kind of lost track once things started getting awful) that you, personally, are a piece of shit because you disagreed with a point (that point being the privilege thing?), and in fact stated that she still has respect for you I think.  Neither has Pixie.  I don't identify as being a feminism activist, so I'm not sure I count, but I see your attempts at trying to better understand as extremely admirable, and you have even more of my respect than before, if that is indeed possible.

Thank you.  But I'm still dead.

Me too.  Can we be dead together?

Everyone dies alone.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Sorry, that was harsh, and not what I intended to say.

We can be together in the City of the Dead, but it's kind of hard to say "HI!" because of the mountains of trash, used porn, dead junkies, and other debris that stands between us.

[Freeky]

Okay.