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WHY I OPPOSE WATER FLUORIDATION - A Scientific Perspective by Carrie Medina

Apparently it's a big conspiracy to steal our bodily fluids?

This has consumed otherwise intelligent people for about a month now in Portland. I get it on one level, people ought to just brush their teeth rather than be forced to drink fluoride, but is it really this bad?
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QuoteI must give full credit to FluorideAlert.org

No conflicts of interest here. Nope. None.  :lulz:

This stuff preys on the fact that most people don't have the first clue about toxicology, epidemiological studies, and won't read the papers anyway. And it still amuses me that in the US you actually REDUCE water fluoride in areas where it's naturally high.

Wait until they discover that oxygen is a highly volatile element with cancer causing properties that can also give you lung damage (in high doses for prolonged periods, but that's besides the point apparently.)

This is all still harmless noise compared to the anti-vaccination propaganda, though.

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The thing with fluoride is I can't find anything objective. You have the one camp saying that it's toxic waste from aluminum manufacturing and it crystallizes in your brain and lowers IQ, and the other camp saying it's perfectly safe and saves kids teeth. (I see a lot of little kids with rotten teeth so I kind of question that.) No middle ground.

I don't think it's lethal but I use spring water for drinking and cooking. Even if they stopped fluoridating, tap water would still suck. It has chlorine and all kinds of shit that makes it taste nasty, plus weird little floaty things.  :x
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Fix your plumbing.
Tapwater tastes great here and has neither chlorine or fluorine.
It is called maintenance. It sounds like you haven't done that in 50 years.
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Quote from: Net on September 14, 2012, 05:13:23 AM
WHY I OPPOSE WATER FLUORIDATION - A Scientific Perspective by Carrie Medina

Apparently it's a big conspiracy to steal our bodily fluids?

This has consumed otherwise intelligent people for about a month now in Portland. I get it on one level, people ought to just brush their teeth rather than be forced to drink fluoride, but is it really this bad?

This is all over the place.  It's an old conspiracy theory, born IIRC in the red scare of the 50s/60s.

Fact:  Small amounts of flouride will help your bones and teeth.  This is why it is added to tap water in many places.

Fact:  Large amounts of flouride will fuck your brain up badly.

Fact:  Given the quantities in tap water, the amount required to fuck you up would require enough water to kill you.

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Quote from: :regret: on September 14, 2012, 12:19:03 PM
America.
Fix your plumbing.
Tapwater tastes great here and has neither chlorine or fluorine.
It is called maintenance. It sounds like you haven't done that in 50 years.

Shut your pie hole.  The flouride is ADDED.

Canada has been doing it for decades, and look at them.   Shiny teeth and shiny eyes and hardly anyone gets eaten.
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Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on September 14, 2012, 11:29:22 AM
The thing with fluoride is I can't find anything objective. You have the one camp saying that it's toxic waste from aluminum manufacturing and it crystallizes in your brain and lowers IQ, and the other camp saying it's perfectly safe and saves kids teeth.

I think the main problem is that both are technically true, but you need a helluva lot of fluoride for it to become a genuine problem... like more than a human could probably ingest. 

EDIT:  Shit, I see Roger already beat me to it.  And yep... anyone who's seen my videos can tell you Canadian fluoride makes your teeth look BEE-YOO-TEE-FULL.
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Providence tap water is just fine, only one part per million is fluoride, and uses residual-free chlorine at about .3 parts per million when most cities have it at A LOT higher. This is why we have the best drinking water in the nation. For a shitty little corrupt city, they tend to not fuck around when it comes to these things.

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Quote from: Suu on September 14, 2012, 02:48:16 PM
Providence tap water is just fine, only one part per million is fluoride, and uses residual-free chlorine at about .3 parts per million when most cities have it at A LOT higher. This is why we have the best drinking water in the nation. For a shitty little corrupt city, they tend to not fuck around when it comes to these things.

Yeah, true, but why do you guys insist on adding thee parts per million of Nyarlathotep?
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Quote from: Hoopla on September 14, 2012, 02:53:52 PM
Quote from: Suu on September 14, 2012, 02:48:16 PM
Providence tap water is just fine, only one part per million is fluoride, and uses residual-free chlorine at about .3 parts per million when most cities have it at A LOT higher. This is why we have the best drinking water in the nation. For a shitty little corrupt city, they tend to not fuck around when it comes to these things.

Yeah, true, but why do you guys insist on adding thee parts per million of Nyarlathotep?

BEST DRINKING WATER IN THE AAAAAAAAAAA I CAN SEE FOREVERRRRRR!
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"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
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Suu

Quote from: Hoopla on September 14, 2012, 02:53:52 PM
Quote from: Suu on September 14, 2012, 02:48:16 PM
Providence tap water is just fine, only one part per million is fluoride, and uses residual-free chlorine at about .3 parts per million when most cities have it at A LOT higher. This is why we have the best drinking water in the nation. For a shitty little corrupt city, they tend to not fuck around when it comes to these things.

Yeah, true, but why do you guys insist on adding thee parts per million of Nyarlathotep?

I don't know what you're talking about. @_@

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I have my teeth and I am not retarded, therefore I conclude that fluoride is not a bad thing in tapwater.

Anna Mae Bollocks

Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 14, 2012, 02:56:13 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 14, 2012, 02:53:52 PM
Quote from: Suu on September 14, 2012, 02:48:16 PM
Providence tap water is just fine, only one part per million is fluoride, and uses residual-free chlorine at about .3 parts per million when most cities have it at A LOT higher. This is why we have the best drinking water in the nation. For a shitty little corrupt city, they tend to not fuck around when it comes to these things.

Yeah, true, but why do you guys insist on adding thee parts per million of Nyarlathotep?

BEST DRINKING WATER IN THE AAAAAAAAAAA I CAN SEE FOREVERRRRRR!

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Quote from: Hoopla on September 14, 2012, 02:43:34 PM
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on September 14, 2012, 11:29:22 AM
The thing with fluoride is I can't find anything objective. You have the one camp saying that it's toxic waste from aluminum manufacturing and it crystallizes in your brain and lowers IQ, and the other camp saying it's perfectly safe and saves kids teeth.

I think the main problem is that both are technically true, but you need a helluva lot of fluoride for it to become a genuine problem... like more than a human could probably ingest. 

EDIT:  Shit, I see Roger already beat me to it.  And yep... anyone who's seen my videos can tell you Canadian fluoride makes your teeth look BEE-YOO-TEE-FULL.

I've read that it stays in your body, though. That's how it works, isn't it? It stays in your bones and teeth, at least. So, you get it every time you drink tapwater, plus every time you eat something cooked in tapwater. The longer you boil something, the more concentrated it gets. If you're making chili or stew and keep adding water when it starts looking like it wants to scorch before it's ready, you could end up with a lot of fluoride in there.

If you do all this year after year, you probably have a fuckton of fluoride in your body. Not enough to kill you, but it's not supposed to be there. It strikes me as something that could potentially trigger some kind of disease. If I'm going to get sick and/or die unnecessarily, I'd prefer it to be from something I actually enjoyed and not nastyass tap water.  :lol:

There's some naturally occuring fluoride in most spring water too, but it's a miniscule amount and IIRC it's calcium fluoride and not stannous?
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Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on September 14, 2012, 06:26:06 PM


I've read that it stays in your body, though. That's how it works, isn't it? It stays in your bones and teeth, at least.

No, that's calcium.
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"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.