The Porn Princess Rant, Re-Written

[The Good Reverend Roger]

and I'm pretty sure you can tell when someone's strung out.

Nope.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

It seems to me that "feminist porn" in the best possible sense is still tragic,

You could have stopped right there.

"Still/solo" images aside (that's a whole other argument), if at it's best it's still turning an actual human into a commidty, it's wrong.

There's only a varying degree of fucked-up behavior.

[tyrannosaurus vex]

It seems to me that "feminist porn" in the best possible sense is still tragic,

You could have stopped right there.

"Still/solo" images aside (that's a whole other argument), if at it's best it's still turning an actual human into a commidty, it's wrong.

There's only a varying degree of fucked-up behavior.

That's true, but I can't resist a good opportunity to insult Christianity.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

and I'm pretty sure you can tell when someone's strung out.

Nope.

True. A lot of people hide it well.

They have to.

[Juana]

It seems to me that "feminist porn" in the best possible sense is still tragic, because the only healthy thing it satisfies is a gaping hole in human sexual expression that only exists because of fucked up puritanical social taboos that say sex is dirty and should be something to hide. In a better society, everything a person might gain from "feminist porn" would be more easily gained from real human interaction, through a less restrictive cultural definition of sexuality.

As it is now, I can't help but wonder if formulating an "ethically acceptable" form of pornography isn't actually counterproductive to forming that kind of culture, because it allows a person to engage in "cleaner" pornography but completely avoid the question of why pornography is necessary at all.

I'm going to point out that some people choose porn. Maybe their partner(s) is unwilling to play along with one of their kinks. Maybe their partner(s) isn't available at the time. Maybe they're newly single and don't want a one night stand or a fling. Maybe they're a voyeur and can't set up an IRL situation for it. Maybe they don't feel like having sex with other people right now.

I don't think there's necessarily a problem with enjoying watching/reading about people having sex. I think there's a problem with exploiting other humans for your own pleasure.

and I'm pretty sure you can tell when someone's strung out.

Nope.

I'll keep that in mind.

[Juana]

I mean, I knew models can hide it pretty easy, as they're not really encouraged to have actual facial expressions, but porn is rather more engaged than standing around and being told to pretend you're a Greek statue or something.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

It seems to me that "feminist porn" in the best possible sense is still tragic, because the only healthy thing it satisfies is a gaping hole in human sexual expression that only exists because of fucked up puritanical social taboos that say sex is dirty and should be something to hide. In a better society, everything a person might gain from "feminist porn" would be more easily gained from real human interaction, through a less restrictive cultural definition of sexuality.

As it is now, I can't help but wonder if formulating an "ethically acceptable" form of pornography isn't actually counterproductive to forming that kind of culture, because it allows a person to engage in "cleaner" pornography but completely avoid the question of why pornography is necessary at all.

I'm going to point out that some people choose porn. Maybe their partner(s) is unwilling to play along with one of their kinks. Maybe their partner(s) isn't available at the time. Maybe they're newly single and don't want a one night stand or a fling. Maybe they're a voyeur and can't set up an IRL situation for it. Maybe they don't feel like having sex with other people right now.

I don't think there's necessarily a problem with enjoying watching/reading about people having sex. I think there's a problem with exploiting other humans for your own pleasure.

and I'm pretty sure you can tell when someone's strung out.

Nope.

I'll keep that in mind.

I guess some people could be that naive and stupid, expecially considering that the porn industry is looking for 17 year olds. But once they get into it and see what it's like, they can't get out. They need the money, then they need drugs to keep doing it, then they need more money.

I mean, I knew models can hide it pretty easy, as they're not really encouraged to have actual facial expressions, but porn is rather more engaged than standing around and being told to pretend you're a Greek statue or something.

I wouldn't call making moan faces complex acting.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I'm going to point out that some people choose porn.

But that's not how you bet.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I mean, I knew models can hide it pretty easy, as they're not really encouraged to have actual facial expressions, but porn is rather more engaged than standing around and being told to pretend you're a Greek statue or something.

Ever SEE a porn film?  The facial expressions are RIDICULOUS.  If I had a partner start acting like that, I'd hop out of the bed and call an ambulance.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

And Garbo, do you really think the industry caters to the ACTORS kinks?

Girl on girl, cheap money. Gang rape, better money. Three ring circus of abuse and humiliation, top money.

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The way I solved the porn problem was to get my girlfriend's unequivocal consent to be filmed while we get down. Besides knowing that she was not faking it, DIY porn has the added amusement of being able to observe your own facial expressions and whatnot.

But one of the most difficult things I've ever had to do was to delete our home made pornos after our relationship was over.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

I mean, I knew models can hide it pretty easy, as they're not really encouraged to have actual facial expressions, but porn is rather more engaged than standing around and being told to pretend you're a Greek statue or something.

Ever SEE a porn film?  The facial expressions are RIDICULOUS.  If I had a partner start acting like that, I'd hop out of the bed and call an ambulance.

 

[Juana]

When I said that, I meant they choose to watch porn, instead of having sex with other people IRL. I should have been more clear in my wording.

It's still more than looking blank or fax-sultry, although point taken.

I mean, I knew models can hide it pretty easy, as they're not really encouraged to have actual facial expressions, but porn is rather more engaged than standing around and being told to pretend you're a Greek statue or something.

Ever SEE a porn film?  The facial expressions are RIDICULOUS.  If I had a partner start acting like that, I'd hop out of the bed and call an ambulance.

I saw a snippet of some lesbian porn, while in a porn shop about five years ago or so. They had that creepy-leery thing going on.

And Garbo, do you really think the industry caters to the ACTORS kinks?

Girl on girl, cheap money. Gang rape, better money. Three ring circus of abuse and humiliation, top money.

*sigh* I thought the wording was clear enough in my post to Vex, but apparently not. I know they don't cater to the actors. They cater to the audience.

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I mean, I knew models can hide it pretty easy, as they're not really encouraged to have actual facial expressions, but porn is rather more engaged than standing around and being told to pretend you're a Greek statue or something.

Ever SEE a porn film?  The facial expressions are RIDICULOUS.  If I had a partner start acting like that, I'd hop out of the bed and call an ambulance.

Have you ever seen your own facial expressions while you're having sex?

I know for a fact that MINE are definitely ridiculous.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

And Garbo, do you really think the industry caters to the ACTORS kinks?

From what I saw of the industry?  Sadly, no.

It's "GET THE FUCK IN THERE, BABE, JOHNNY WOSSNAME FINALLY GOT HARD.  HERE, TAKE A HIT, NOW GET THE HELL IN THERE."

The submissive one is lucky if he/she are told WHAT'S gonna happen.  The idea that they get a say in it is ridiculous.

And until I see proof otherwise, I am assuming "feminist porn" is run the same way.  There is no reason at all that a woman can't be every bit as evil and exploitive as a man is capable of being.

Makes GREAT ad copy, though, doesn't it?

"Here at Femme Porn™, we treat our stars as people, and pay them in unicorn poop!"

Reality:  "GET THE FUCK IN THERE, BABE, JOHNNY WOSSNAME FINALLY GOT HARD.  HERE, TAKE A HIT, NOW GET THE HELL IN THERE."