The Porn Princess Rant, Re-Written

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

To quote Ghostbusters, don't cross the streams.

It's very, very difficult to negotiate a path of being a Dom/S male who's interested in Sub/M females and *not* look like a misogynistic douchebag. Simply saying "go to a swinger site instead" wont cut it, because the swinger community, by and large, doesn't buy in to BDSM.

Not to mention that plenty of people who are into BDSM are not at all into the swinging scene.

I have seen a fair bit of homemade swinger porn, but I haven't yet seen any that didn't leave a bad taste in my mouth. A straight-up exhibitionist site might be good though.

[Elder Iptuous]

oh, certainly, LMNO.
i agree. if you're looking for BDSM content as a female, then i would think you are going to have to handle male dominants by either ignoring them or asserting your own dominance. (just guessing here, i'm not well versed)  Unless, of course, you are submissive.

i was just suggesting swinger content for those that are looking to analyze user created content as a workable model rather than traditional smut which is unacceptable in the context of this discussion...

[LMNO]

I figured that's where you were heading, I just wanted to clarify.

[Elder Iptuous]

I have seen a fair bit of homemade swinger porn, but I haven't yet seen any that didn't leave a bad taste in my mouth. A straight-up exhibitionist site might be good though.

i would think that, due to the vast diversity of sexuality interests, attitudes, and appearances, that you would get a bad taste in your mouth from any venue where it is all on display en mass, no?  I could see straight-up exhibitionist sites having just as much creep in it.

[LMNO]

This might have been addressed before, but what sort of thing are you interested in watching, Nigel? 

[Verbal Mike]

BTW:

Incidentally, I kind of want to start a thread about Male Gaze, but I don't want to start the whole thing up again if there's still hard feelings and stuff.  Thoughts?

WHERE IS THREAD?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

oh, certainly, LMNO.
i agree. if you're looking for BDSM content as a female, then i would think you are going to have to handle male dominants by either ignoring them or asserting your own dominance. (just guessing here, i'm not well versed)  Unless, of course, you are submissive.

i was just suggesting swinger content for those that are looking to analyze user created content as a workable model rather than traditional smut which is unacceptable in the context of this discussion...

A woman who doesn't bill herself as a submissive should have to "handle" male dominants at all, any more than male dominants should have to "handle" female dominants, and the notion that it's somehow normal and acceptable for "dom" men (I doubt they're actually doms, I think they're just assholes looking for an excuse to harrass women, because real doms don't bother people who aren't looking for them) to try to browbeat dominant women into being submissive is part of what perpetuates the problem.

As for swinger content, I don't find it any less produced or any less full of the same problems that I've seen on any amateur website, and a lot of it seems to be produced as advertising for clubs. Plenty of pitfalls there, and the thing is, the pitfalls reflect the problems in our society, and always will.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

(I doubt they're actually doms, I think they're just assholes looking for an excuse to harrass women, because real doms don't bother people who aren't looking for them)

This.  That place is utterly bankrupt.  Why bother, unless you're trolling?

[LMNO]

BTW:

Incidentally, I kind of want to start a thread about Male Gaze, but I don't want to start the whole thing up again if there's still hard feelings and stuff.  Thoughts?

WHERE IS THREAD?

Apologies. I'm taking time to get the terms right. There's a nuance between the theory and how it's used in common parlance.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

This might have been addressed before, but what sort of thing are you interested in watching, Nigel?

Straight guy penis is mostly what I look for. I've seen a few couple videos that were good, that were more like real people who are into each other having fun fucking and less all that fake extended blowjob remix bullshit. Unfortunately, most couple videos look fake.

Lately I tend to watch mostly videos of guys jerking themselves off.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

(I doubt they're actually doms, I think they're just assholes looking for an excuse to harrass women, because real doms don't bother people who aren't looking for them)

This.  That place is utterly bankrupt.  Why bother, unless you're trolling?

Trolling is what got me there in the first place. My profile was utterly absurd; my kink was "hardcore vanilla" and monogamy was my biggest turn-on. I then laced that with all kinds of completely weird fetishes that I made up while acting like they were straight out of the Mormon marriage handbook.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

There are other things that I enjoy watching, but mostly don't because it's almost impossible to find videos that don't have so much commercial/exploitative vibe that it totally turns me off. Like, female on male strap-on penetration, chicks with dicks, MMF, partial exposure, CFNM, and sex in public/risky locations.

[Elder Iptuous]

i fully agree with you, Nigel.  it shouldn't be like that (and i take LMNO's word that it largely isn't like that in person).  I was just saying that it doesn't really surprise me, and that it is unlikely to be otherwise with the brigade of assholes that are always present on the intarwebs.
so.... normal, even if not acceptable.  it seems to me that the situation either requires 'handling', or abandoning.

just out of curiosity, have you ever tried treating the assholes as men that secretly with to be dominated by a female, but just need a little breaking in?  (as a troll, or sociololgical experiment to see how they react in that context)

just as a precaution, i'd like to say that i don't really have a dog in the fight, and i'm trying to be constructive, not argumentative here.  (i understand that i can come across as belligerent when i don't mean to, sometimes)

Lately I tend to watch mostly videos of guys jerking themselves off.

... you're not having trouble finding this type of content, are you?

[Verbal Mike]

BTW:

Incidentally, I kind of want to start a thread about Male Gaze, but I don't want to start the whole thing up again if there's still hard feelings and stuff.  Thoughts?

WHERE IS THREAD?

Apologies. I'm taking time to get the terms right. There's a nuance between the theory and how it's used in common parlance.

Okay, just wanted to make sure it's still coming.

[Verbal Mike]

Also, I've now googled "Male Gaze" and found out it's not what I thought, but also something I'm very interested in.