UNLIMITED holist appreciation thread

[Aucoq]

Lordy.

An alterego.

"holist" - that's my name. So be careful.

Alty: you were whinging, definitely. Still are, in fact. Get a grip.

Actually, it's my name.

It's MY name.

No, it's mine.

People trying to steal my name?  That's the luck of the straw, I guess.  I'm not whinging about it though.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Thanks.

Before I wrote the OP, I knew it would come down to definitions, so I checked wikipedia and found:

Hope is the emotional state which promotes the belief in a positive outcome related to events and circumstances in one's life. Despair is the opposite of hope.

This just confirmed that, yes, that's what I'm talking about. Except, I suppose I'm arguing that it is more often than not a FORCED emotional state and that when it is overtly forced it is nothing but bad.

This thread is actually a great example.

I don't continue to post threads on PD.com because I hope it will garner some kudos or lead to an intriguing conversation. It often does, but I certainly won't count on it. If the thread gets derailed, if a thousand threads get derailed, it will not stop me from posting because I do so for its own sake.

Maybe I'm thinking of a Buddhist sense of non-attachment. I can enjoy posting because I have no hope it will turn into anything.

Oh, so you're saying hoping without actually doing something not pointless to achieve what you hope for is bad?

Profound, that.

And you're also saying doing things without hoping to achieve something with them, "just for laughs", so to say, is good?

Also profound.

Alty, genius!

Only thing is, and come clean now: do you have a problem with doing things while hoping to achieve something with them?

Is that alright with you?

Just checkin'.

What a dick.

Says you.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Lordy.

An alterego.

"holist" - that's my name. So be careful.

Alty: you were whinging, definitely. Still are, in fact. Get a grip.

Actually, it's my name.

It's MY name.

No, it's mine.

People trying to steal my name?  That's the luck of the straw, I guess.  I'm not whinging about it though.

I'M not stealing anything.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Lordy.

An alterego.

"holist" - that's my name. So be careful.

Alty: you were whinging, definitely. Still are, in fact. Get a grip.

Actually, it's my name.

It's MY name.

No, it's mine.

People trying to steal my name?  That's the luck of the straw, I guess.  I'm not whinging about it though.

I'M not stealing anything.

Me, neither. I came about it honestly.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Lordy.

An alterego.

"holist" - that's my name. So be careful.

Alty: you were whinging, definitely. Still are, in fact. Get a grip.

Actually, it's my name.

It's MY name.

No, it's mine.

People trying to steal my name?  That's the luck of the straw, I guess.  I'm not whinging about it though.

I'M not stealing anything.

Me, neither. I came about it honestly.

Did you honestly come about it honestly?

[Don Coyote]

Lordy.

An alterego.

"holist" - that's my name. So be careful.

Alty: you were whinging, definitely. Still are, in fact. Get a grip.

Actually, it's my name.

It's MY name.

No, it's mine.

People trying to steal my name?  That's the luck of the straw, I guess.  I'm not whinging about it though.

I'M not stealing anything.

Me, neither. I came about it honestly.

Did you honestly come about it honestly?

Stop lying.

[Aucoq]

Lordy.

An alterego.

"holist" - that's my name. So be careful.

Alty: you were whinging, definitely. Still are, in fact. Get a grip.

Actually, it's my name.

It's MY name.

No, it's mine.

People trying to steal my name?  That's the luck of the straw, I guess.  I'm not whinging about it though.

I'M not stealing anything.

Me, neither. I came about it honestly.

There's only one holist here who laughs at the idea of a husband asking his wife where his keys are.  And that's me.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Thanks.

Before I wrote the OP, I knew it would come down to definitions, so I checked wikipedia and found:

Hope is the emotional state which promotes the belief in a positive outcome related to events and circumstances in one's life. Despair is the opposite of hope.

This just confirmed that, yes, that's what I'm talking about. Except, I suppose I'm arguing that it is more often than not a FORCED emotional state and that when it is overtly forced it is nothing but bad.

This thread is actually a great example.

I don't continue to post threads on PD.com because I hope it will garner some kudos or lead to an intriguing conversation. It often does, but I certainly won't count on it. If the thread gets derailed, if a thousand threads get derailed, it will not stop me from posting because I do so for its own sake.

Maybe I'm thinking of a Buddhist sense of non-attachment. I can enjoy posting because I have no hope it will turn into anything.

Oh, so you're saying hoping without actually doing something not pointless to achieve what you hope for is bad?

Profound, that.

And you're also saying doing things without hoping to achieve something with them, "just for laughs", so to say, is good?

Also profound.

Alty, genius!

Only thing is, and come clean now: do you have a problem with doing things while hoping to achieve something with them?

Is that alright with you?

Just checkin'.

Hoping for something without doing anything pragmatic to help it happen seems really masochistic to me.

[Don Coyote]

Lordy.

An alterego.

"holist" - that's my name. So be careful.

Alty: you were whinging, definitely. Still are, in fact. Get a grip.

Actually, it's my name.

It's MY name.

No, it's mine.

People trying to steal my name?  That's the luck of the straw, I guess.  I'm not whinging about it though.

I'M not stealing anything.

Me, neither. I came about it honestly.

There's only one holist here who laughs at the idea of a husband asking his wife where his keys are.  And that's me.

Look, I don't want any trouble, but stop stealing my keys so you can lose them.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Lordy.

An alterego.

"holist" - that's my name. So be careful.

Alty: you were whinging, definitely. Still are, in fact. Get a grip.

Actually, it's my name.

It's MY name.

No, it's mine.

People trying to steal my name?  That's the luck of the straw, I guess.  I'm not whinging about it though.

I'M not stealing anything.

Me, neither. I came about it honestly.

There's only one holist here who laughs at the idea of a husband asking his wife where his keys are.  And that's me.

Look, I don't want any trouble, but stop stealing my keys so you can lose them.

And don't talk about my wife like that.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Lordy.

An alterego.

"holist" - that's my name. So be careful.

Alty: you were whinging, definitely. Still are, in fact. Get a grip.

Actually, it's my name.

It's MY name.

No, it's mine.

People trying to steal my name?  That's the luck of the straw, I guess.  I'm not whinging about it though.

I'M not stealing anything.

Me, neither. I came about it honestly.

There's only one holist here who laughs at the idea of a husband asking his wife where his keys are.  And that's me.

Look, I don't want any trouble, but stop stealing my keys so you can lose them.

Does that mean you guys know where my keys are too?

[Don Coyote]

Lordy.

An alterego.

"holist" - that's my name. So be careful.

Alty: you were whinging, definitely. Still are, in fact. Get a grip.

Actually, it's my name.

It's MY name.

No, it's mine.

People trying to steal my name?  That's the luck of the straw, I guess.  I'm not whinging about it though.

I'M not stealing anything.

Me, neither. I came about it honestly.

There's only one holist here who laughs at the idea of a husband asking his wife where his keys are.  And that's me.

Look, I don't want any trouble, but stop stealing my keys so you can lose them.

Does that mean you guys know where my keys are too?

I will talk about my keys and my wife in whatever manner I desire.

[Aucoq]

Lordy.

An alterego.

"holist" - that's my name. So be careful.

Alty: you were whinging, definitely. Still are, in fact. Get a grip.

Actually, it's my name.

It's MY name.

No, it's mine.

People trying to steal my name?  That's the luck of the straw, I guess.  I'm not whinging about it though.

I'M not stealing anything.

Me, neither. I came about it honestly.

There's only one holist here who laughs at the idea of a husband asking his wife where his keys are.  And that's me.

Look, I don't want any trouble, but stop stealing my keys so you can lose them.

Does that mean you guys know where my keys are too?

I will talk about my keys and my wife in whatever manner I desire.

No, you'll talk about my keys and my wife in whatever manner you desire.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Lordy.

An alterego.

"holist" - that's my name. So be careful.

Alty: you were whinging, definitely. Still are, in fact. Get a grip.

Actually, it's my name.

It's MY name.

No, it's mine.

People trying to steal my name?  That's the luck of the straw, I guess.  I'm not whinging about it though.

I'M not stealing anything.

Me, neither. I came about it honestly.

There's only one holist here who laughs at the idea of a husband asking his wife where his keys are.  And that's me.

Look, I don't want any trouble, but stop stealing my keys so you can lose them.

Does that mean you guys know where my keys are too?

I will talk about my keys and my wife in whatever manner I desire.

But it's not FUNNY.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Lordy.

An alterego.

"holist" - that's my name. So be careful.

Alty: you were whinging, definitely. Still are, in fact. Get a grip.

Actually, it's my name.

It's MY name.

No, it's mine.

People trying to steal my name?  That's the luck of the straw, I guess.  I'm not whinging about it though.

I'M not stealing anything.

Me, neither. I came about it honestly.

There's only one holist here who laughs at the idea of a husband asking his wife where his keys are.  And that's me.

Look, I don't want any trouble, but stop stealing my keys so you can lose them.

Does that mean you guys know where my keys are too?

I will talk about my keys and my wife in whatever manner I desire.

But it's not FUNNY.

That's not a valid criticism.