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Started by Dildo Argentino, September 25, 2012, 05:36:58 PM

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#45
September 25, 2012, 08:03:14 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 25, 2012, 08:01:54 PM
Quote from: v3x on September 25, 2012, 08:01:05 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 25, 2012, 07:59:47 PM
Remember, kids!  Sitting in that cubicle is JUST THE SAME as, say, being FUCKED BY RON JEREMY'S DISEASED MEMBER in EVERY ORIFICE.  There is no practical difference!

:hosrie:

Also, if you're going to have to do a job you don't find personally exciting, you may as well just get out on the corner and say "Business?" to everyone that goes by.

Because it's either THAT, or you will hurt Holist's feelings by putting big fucking dents in his sense of entitlement.  And nobody wants that.

I'm gonna ask my boss what my chances are for a Workman's Comp claim to compensate me for chlamydia. BRB I'M SURE IT'LL GO REAL WELL.

HEY!  TRANSLATORS GET CARPAL TUNNEL SYNDROME, YOU KNOW!

Can you believe this shit!? My boss said NO! I'm starting to think I have it even worse than most sex workers.
Evil and Unfeeling Arse-Flenser From The City of the Damned.

Dildo Argentino

#46
September 25, 2012, 08:08:12 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on September 25, 2012, 07:57:41 PM
Quote from: holist on September 25, 2012, 07:53:15 PM
In that respect, very near, or right up with.


This is where you and the rest of reality disagree.

I will unpack that statement. First, what I am saying is that working in a totally alienated manner (purely for the money) is bad. It is soul-destroying, demeaning, stultifying. This is straightforward Marxism 101, also, I think it is correct. (I don't think this about all of Marx' stuff, by the way).

And second, I am saying that in the vast majority of sex-work, as far as I can see, is totally alienated: the wast majority of people who make money by having sex on or off camera, are doing so purely to get the money. If they could get the money some other way, they would. But they can't.

And finally, I am saying, that quite apart from all the other horrible aspects of the sex industry (the exploitation, on the one hand, and the commodification of that most personal and private and joyful aspect of human life, which is sex, on the other hand), this in itself contributes significantly to it being bad. Of course the reason that the vast majority of sex-workers are totally alienated workers has a great deal to do with the fact that sex-work is the commodification of that most personal and private and joyful thing, sex - that explains the alienation aspect, but doesn't make it disappear. Funnily enough, Marx actually recognised that alienation is required in the system because it aids exploitation: as alienated work kills self-esteem, it generates people who are easier to dominate, manipulate, exploit.

And this is contrary to reality. This is my current best formulation. Can you go with that?
Not too keen on rigor, myself - reminds me of mortis

The Good Reverend Roger

#47
September 25, 2012, 08:10:35 PM
When your idea doesn't work, restate it.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Anna Mae Bollocks

#48
September 25, 2012, 08:14:52 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 25, 2012, 07:59:47 PM
Remember, kids!  Sitting in that cubicle is JUST THE SAME as, say, being FUCKED BY RON JEREMY'S DISEASED MEMBER in EVERY ORIFICE.  There is no practical difference!

:hosrie:

Also, if you're going to have to do a job you don't find personally exciting, you may as well just get out on the corner and say "Business?" to everyone that goes by.

Because it's either THAT, or you will hurt Holist's feelings by putting big fucking dents in his sense of entitlement.  And nobody wants that.

People work at WalMart so they don't HAVE to do stuff with dicks like Ron Jeremy's.
Scantily-Clad Inspector of Gigantic and Unnecessary Cashews, Texas Division

Dildo Argentino

#49
September 25, 2012, 08:19:09 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 25, 2012, 08:00:53 PM
Yet here you are, with your bare face hanging out, suggesting that doing translation work is JUST THE SAME.

This implies that you may in fact be retarded.  Are you retarded?

I guess I am, because I honestly don't see the point you are making. I did initially say that I was a frontal lobe prostitute. The very term itself should make it clear that this is not the literal sense of prostitute, because, you know, it is not (primarily) their brains that literal prostitutes and porn-stars (especially those of the type you described in the Porn Princess Rant OP) rent out. Since then, I have made my position increasingly clear, it is now very clear, I think. And it is not suggesting that translation is JUST THE SAME as prostitution.
Not too keen on rigor, myself - reminds me of mortis

The Good Reverend Roger

#50
September 25, 2012, 08:21:01 PM
Quote from: holist on September 25, 2012, 08:19:09 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 25, 2012, 08:00:53 PM
Yet here you are, with your bare face hanging out, suggesting that doing translation work is JUST THE SAME.

This implies that you may in fact be retarded.  Are you retarded?

I guess I am, because I honestly don't see the point you are making. I did initially say that I was a frontal lobe prostitute. The very term itself should make it clear that this is not the literal sense of prostitute, because, you know, it is not (primarily) their brains that literal prostitutes and porn-stars (especially those of the type you described in the Porn Princess Rant OP) rent out. Since then, I have made my position increasingly clear, it is now very clear, I think. And it is not suggesting that translation is JUST THE SAME as prostitution.

Actually, you just said they were equivalent.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Dildo Argentino

#51
September 25, 2012, 08:23:43 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 25, 2012, 08:21:01 PM
Actually, you just said they were equivalent.

Actually, I didn't.
Not too keen on rigor, myself - reminds me of mortis

Dildo Argentino

#52
September 25, 2012, 08:24:34 PM
And fuck this for a game of billiards. I've got work to do.  :lulz: Back in a few hours!
Not too keen on rigor, myself - reminds me of mortis

Freeky

#53
September 25, 2012, 08:25:24 PM
Quote from: holist on September 25, 2012, 08:23:43 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 25, 2012, 08:21:01 PM
Actually, you just said they were equivalent.

Actually, I didn't.

Yes you did.

tyrannosaurus vex

#54
September 25, 2012, 08:25:50 PM
I think this specimen is defective, it just stays in its pen and chases its tail all day.
Evil and Unfeeling Arse-Flenser From The City of the Damned.

The Good Reverend Roger

#55
September 25, 2012, 08:26:49 PM
Quote from: v3x on September 25, 2012, 08:25:50 PM
I think this specimen is defective, it just stays in its pen and chases its tail all day.

Time for SCIENCE.

We leave it alone in its pen, see if it continues the behavior without external stimuli.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

trippinprincezz13

#56
September 25, 2012, 08:30:44 PM
I came in early to do some filing so that I could spend the rest of the day doing more important work. Also, I hit my elbow on the filing cabinet and it hurt a little  :sad: This is what it must be like to be a porn star  :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

Is that the gist of this thread? That seems to be what I got out of what I skimmed over, and all the attention it seems to deserve?
There's no sun shine coming through her ass, if you are sure of your penis.

Paranoia is a disease unto itself, and may I add, the person standing next to you, may not be who they appear to be, so take precaution.

If there is no order in your sexual life it may be difficult to stay with a whole skin.

Cain

#57
September 25, 2012, 08:31:48 PM
LMNO, does this strike you as being similar to what Yudowsky was talking about, when people try to widen the frame of their analogies as far as possible, instead of narrowing down the differences?

I only ask because I'm having dinner, it's bugging me, and you would know where the link to it was.

The Good Reverend Roger

#58
September 25, 2012, 08:32:55 PM
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on September 25, 2012, 08:30:44 PM
I came in early to do some filing so that I could spend the rest of the day doing more important work. Also, I hit my elbow on the filing cabinet and it hurt a little  :sad: This is what it must be like to be a porn star  :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

Is that the gist of this thread? That seems to be what I got out of what I skimmed over, and all the attention it seems to deserve?

Trippingprincezz once again cuts the crap. 

:mittens:
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

tyrannosaurus vex

#59
September 25, 2012, 08:36:42 PM
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on September 25, 2012, 08:30:44 PM
I came in early to do some filing so that I could spend the rest of the day doing more important work. Also, I hit my elbow on the filing cabinet and it hurt a little  :sad: This is what it must be like to be a porn star  :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

Is that the gist of this thread? That seems to be what I got out of what I skimmed over, and all the attention it seems to deserve?

Yes. What happened to you is exactly like being a porn star in the same way that hitting some turbulence in an airliner is exactly what it was like to be a passenger on the Challenger.
Evil and Unfeeling Arse-Flenser From The City of the Damned.
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