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Started by Mangrove, October 23, 2012, 08:23:22 PM

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Junkenstein

That 650/660 number could apparently be over 10K according to various headlines.

Wonderful.

Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

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Quote from: Junkenstein on July 16, 2014, 10:51:50 AM
Daily "Jesus fucking christ" link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28326128

QuoteMore than 650 suspected paedophiles have been arrested as part of a six-month operation targeting people accessing child abuse images online.

The National Crime Agency (NCA) said the 660 arrested included doctors, teachers, scout leaders, care workers and former police officers.

More than 400 children have been protected as a result, the agency said.

Arrests were made across the UK and the majority of those held had no previous contact with police.

The NCA said 39 were of those arrested are registered sex offenders.

Charges already brought range from possessing indecent images of children to serious sexual assault.

The NCA stressed that none of those arrested is a serving or former MP or member of the Government.

Behold the final word in the argument in UK communications monitoring. That bill has already flown through the usual process and anyone who dares decry it will be directed to this and accused of sympathising with paedophiles.

It'd almost be funny if it wasn't tragic. Terrorists and drug dealers not scary enough for you? "Well if we don't have X we won't be able to properly protect your kids"

You can't help but wonder about the bold. It seems an odd thing to emphasise to me. Last week there was some discontent over a missing dossier which apparently implicated MP's and other such government figures. Making a point about how none of them are involved seems like a rather politically motivated statement.



the fact that it's an official announcement from the Ministry of Truth would make it seem like a rather politically motivated statement

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Junkenstein

FUCKING CALLED IT.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28790718

QuotePolice have searched a Berkshire property belonging to Sir Cliff Richard in relation to an alleged historical sex offence.

No arrests have been made and Sir Cliff, 73, who is abroad, said the allegation was "completely false".

Police said the allegation involved a boy under 16 and dated from the 1980s.

The BBC understands it relates to an alleged sexual assault at an event where US preacher Billy Graham appeared at Bramall Lane, Sheffield.

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Quote from: Junkenstein on August 14, 2014, 03:18:35 PM
FUCKING CALLED IT.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28790718

QuotePolice have searched a Berkshire property belonging to Sir Cliff Richard in relation to an alleged historical sex offence.

No arrests have been made and Sir Cliff, 73, who is abroad, said the allegation was "completely false".

Police said the allegation involved a boy under 16 and dated from the 1980s.

The BBC understands it relates to an alleged sexual assault at an event where US preacher Billy Graham appeared at Bramall Lane, Sheffield.

Back later, can't stop laughing.
funny me and payne and HouseMatt were saying the exact same thing 3 weeks ago.....

Cain

Rumours have been circulating for a while.

No idea how credible they are, though.  On the one hand, never-married overtly Christian popstar with buckets of money who gives heavily to charity.  You can see a cause for suspicion.  On the other hand, despite never marrying his known past relationships have been, for want of a better word, normal. 

Also, given how heavily connected Cliff Richard is in the world of showbiz, he couldn't get away with it without a heavy level of collusion with others.  At the very least, his manager, the manager's mother and his girlfriend all lived with him for extended periods.  If Cliff is guilty, then others must have known.

Junkenstein

QuoteIf Cliff is guilty, then others must have known.

Reasonable, though not necessarily.

Savile's antics were "known" but widely ignored/dismissed. The various rumours about Cliff are far from recent which makes it somewhat more difficult to assess.

I guess the most immediately telling factor would be if he decides to return to the UK. I doubt he's in any rush to get on a flight and clear his name in person. That said, doing so would certainly slant my opinion in his favour.

I can't recall royal/political connections off-hand, but I'm sure there's got to be some, at least.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Cain

It would be very hard, if not impossible, to hide such activities from others he lived with, if he was a consistent predatory sex offender.  Much like Savile.  I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying that if it did happen, then it's pretty certain at least some other people knew about it, in some capacity.

He doesn't have that many Royal connections, surprisingly.  He has a Knighthood, of course, performed at Buckingham Palace a couple of times and probably rubbed elbows with some royals while doing his charity work.

Junkenstein

It seems worth noting that many people suddenly knew things about Savile and Co. after they were arrested and publicly known to have committed various offences.

Guess it's a bit of a waiting game for more info. If he has been a consistent predator then I'd guess additional accusations to surface over the coming week.

It seems worth noting as well that he may be quite innocent of all this. I, however, have been making jokes about this day coming for around 10 years so I'm sure as hell going to laugh it up while I can.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

BadBeast

I pretty much knew he was a wrongcock when I was ten years old, and Jim'll fix it was on every Saturday teatime. It used to make me cringe to see him with some poor little dying kid sitting on his lap.

And Cliff Richard always made my shit itch too, tbh.
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Quote from: Mangrove on August 22, 2014, 08:15:47 PM
How did we miss this one?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Denning 


I've never heard of him, but that's probably why he's been lower profile than other Operation Yewtree catches. He hasn't worked for the BBC since 1969, but he still worked there, so were he to be overlooked, it might reflect badly on the BBC.

However, he's hardly been "low profile" in Europe, judging by his conviction history. And he seems to be connected to other "less famous" paedos like Tam Paton, as well as people like Jonathan King, Gary Glitter, and (at least half of) The Bay City Rollers. He's got quite a rap sheet, seeing as he's spent thirty years in Prison though. Doen't look like he'll be getting out anytime soon either. 
"We need a plane for Bombing, Strafing, Assault and Battery, Interception, Ground Support, and Reconaissance,
NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

"I kinda like him. It's like he sees inside my soul" ~ Nigel


Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

"And when the clouds obscure the moon, and normal service is resumed. It wont. Mean. A. Thing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkCJDYxH-4

Junkenstein

It continues:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28935733

QuoteThe stereotypical belief that boys are less vulnerable to child sexual exploitation means they are receiving insufficient protection from frontline services, Barnardo's has claimed.

The children's charity says new findings reveal up to a third of victims are male.

The figure, taken from analysis of more than 9,000 records, shows a deeper problem than previously recognised.

Barnardo's says schools must teach boys about the dangers of grooming.

Barnardo's are far from perfect, so if they're indicating a problem of this size I would suggest it to be a minimum figure.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28947707

QuoteSouth Yorkshire's Police and Crime Commissioner is facing calls to resign after the publication of a report into widespread child abuse in Rotherham.

The study, published on Tuesday, found at least 1,400 children in the town were sexually exploited by criminal gangs between 1997 and 2013.

PCC Shaun Wright was responsible for children's services at Rotherham Council from 2005 to 2010.

Rotherham isn't even that big of a place. That's some seriously disturbing shit.
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Cain

I haven't fully read into that particular series of cases, but I'm making the assumption that the tabloid approved version of this story, namely "Islamic paedo rape gangs allowed to bugger YOUR CHILDREN by PC Brigade because they're afraid of being called racist" is not strictly accurate?

Junkenstein

You would be correct.

Please collect your jaw from the floor in your own time.
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Cain

I am shocked.

Also, just checked the BBC article:

QuoteThe inquiry team noted fears among council staff of being labelled "racist" if they focused on victims' descriptions of the majority of abusers as "Asian" men.

It takes quite the imagination or lack of reading comprehension to read that as "Muslims allowed to rape children because PC brigade afraid of being called racist".

Besides, recent history has shown lots of white guys getting away with child rape too. I believe some papers have reflected on this issue.  Perhaps the problem is not racism, or some kind of mythical PC brigade, but that this country badly handles all kinds of hideous crimes against children, and frequently the authorities collude in covering up the full extent of the problem, no matter the skin colour of the perpetrators.