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A few thoughts on the latest round of White Guilt discussions

Started by The Good Reverend Roger, November 28, 2012, 07:34:23 PM

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Elder Iptuous

Dude, you know that's not true.
you're a large chunk of what this place is.  you're part and parcel of why people come here.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on November 30, 2012, 04:38:58 PM
People are in a weird mood.  You're bound to see some sore nerves.  Doesn't mean everyone wants you to leave.

I never said anyone did.  I said "I don't think I belong here anymore".  I think I've become the person I always used to make fun of.  Some horrible Lester Maddox clone.  That's not Discordia.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Dildo Argentino

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 30, 2012, 04:45:34 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on November 30, 2012, 04:38:58 PM
People are in a weird mood.  You're bound to see some sore nerves.  Doesn't mean everyone wants you to leave.

I never said anyone did.  I said "I don't think I belong here anymore".  I think I've become the person I always used to make fun of.  Some horrible Lester Maddox clone.  That's not Discordia.

WOW, you seem to have done the unexpected. And there was stupid me thinking I had you figured.

Well first of all, take deep breaths, it will pass.

Secondly, I wouldn't have figured horrible LEster Maddox clones who used to make fun of themselves but got tired of it are not welcome here. Hell, even I haven't been banned.

There's hope for you yet.
Not too keen on rigor, myself - reminds me of mortis

Aucoq

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 30, 2012, 04:23:08 PM
Either I've changed or other people have changed or maybe both.  The gags I find funny are offensive and not funny to other people.  But they're the only gags I know.  I'm some sort of horrible anachronism that wanders around laughing at all the wrong things and at all the wrong jokes.  I've always known this, but I never thought I was coming off as basically Lester Maddox talking about "niggers".  Needless to say, this is very upsetting, and I don't mean "I am mad at the person that pointed this out", I mean "I am upset with my own behavior, and at not having seen what is apparently plain as day to other people."

Yeah, this is total bullshit.  I haven't gotten a Maddox feel from you at all.  Ever.

I think I know where you're coming from though.  That awkward spot where you think everyone is just being overly sensitive or too PC.  Then you stop and think,"  Shit, that's something Maddox would say."  But you're not Maddoxing, Roger.

It's the fucking -isms, man.  They put everyone in a weird spot.  You can't mock the sillier elements of an -ism without dragging the genuinely good elements of the -ism into it.  And in order to defend the genuinely good elements of the -ism you have to defend the sillier elements even if you don't agree with them.  It's a giant clusterfuck.  There's no way in hell there's not going to be tons of collateral damage.
"All of the world's leading theologists agree only on the notion that God hates no-fault insurance."

Horrid and Sticky Llama Wrangler of Last Week's Forbidden Desire.

Elder Iptuous

Quote from: holist on November 30, 2012, 05:11:25 PM
SNIP
... are not welcome here. Hell, even I haven't been banned.

protip:  just because you haven't been banned, doesn't mean you are welcome here.

trippinprincezz13

Quote from: Sita on November 30, 2012, 04:37:40 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 30, 2012, 04:23:08 PM
That being said, since I cannot trust my own judgement as to what is funny and what is offensive, I'm going to have to stop laughing.  My sincerest apologies to anyone I may have offended in this manner.
I'm always laughing at all the wrong things.
I have a very macabre sense of humor at times.

Never stop laughing, because let's face it what's entertaining to one is likely not to be to another. All you can do if you laugh at the wrong thing/time is apologize (if you are sincerely sorry) and move on, hopefully remembering not to laugh out loud about the same thing again.

This, and sometimes I end up laughing at horrible things just because well...look at how horrible it is! It certainly doesn't mean I can't understand the importance of serious things.

Just that if I had to stop laughing at everything and nothing, might just go mad.
There's no sun shine coming through her ass, if you are sure of your penis.

Paranoia is a disease unto itself, and may I add, the person standing next to you, may not be who they appear to be, so take precaution.

If there is no order in your sexual life it may be difficult to stay with a whole skin.

Dildo Argentino

Quote from: Elder Iptuous on November 30, 2012, 06:02:51 PM
Quote from: holist on November 30, 2012, 05:11:25 PM
SNIP
... are not welcome here. Hell, even I haven't been banned.

protip:  just because you haven't been banned, doesn't mean you are welcome here.

come off it

you got the means, you got the justification, what's stopping ya?

what's stopping you?
Not too keen on rigor, myself - reminds me of mortis

trippinprincezz13

Also, unless I'm missing something, I don't see how pointing of the sillier/extreme parts of something - either by humor, snark or just straigh-forwardly = "herp derp, niggers is bad what with their fried chicken eating and womin rapin' ways"
There's no sun shine coming through her ass, if you are sure of your penis.

Paranoia is a disease unto itself, and may I add, the person standing next to you, may not be who they appear to be, so take precaution.

If there is no order in your sexual life it may be difficult to stay with a whole skin.

Elder Iptuous

Quote from: holist on November 30, 2012, 06:16:00 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on November 30, 2012, 06:02:51 PM
Quote from: holist on November 30, 2012, 05:11:25 PM
SNIP
... are not welcome here. Hell, even I haven't been banned.

protip:  just because you haven't been banned, doesn't mean you are welcome here.

come off it

you got the means, you got the justification, what's stopping ya?

what's stopping you?
wut?  i'm not a mod. i haven't the means, personally.
justification?  the mods are very conservative with the ban hammer. few rules get it.  social infractions just get social reactions.
what's stopping us as a community? tradition.

LMNO

Quote from: Running From Ghosts on November 30, 2012, 05:38:57 PM
It's the fucking -isms, man.  They put everyone in a weird spot.  You can't mock the sillier elements of an -ism without dragging the genuinely good elements of the -ism into it.  And in order to defend the genuinely good elements of the -ism you have to defend the sillier elements even if you don't agree with them.  It's a giant clusterfuck.  There's no way in hell there's not going to be tons of collateral damage.

This.  Especially if it's generally considered an important, socially relevant ISM that could potentially make people better, rather than a stupid and irrational ISM that is difficult to defend.

Nephew Twiddleton

Holist- do you want to be banned? Is that what youre trying to go for? Is that why youre being a dick to everyone? Is that why you have such a boner for roger? If you dont want to be here anymore just stop showing up.
Strange and Terrible Organ Laminator of Yesterday's Heavy Scene
Sentence or sentence fragment pending

Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: holist on November 30, 2012, 05:11:25 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 30, 2012, 04:45:34 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on November 30, 2012, 04:38:58 PM
People are in a weird mood.  You're bound to see some sore nerves.  Doesn't mean everyone wants you to leave.

I never said anyone did.  I said "I don't think I belong here anymore".  I think I've become the person I always used to make fun of.  Some horrible Lester Maddox clone.  That's not Discordia.

WOW, you seem to have done the unexpected. And there was stupid me thinking I had you figured.

Well first of all, take deep breaths, it will pass.

Secondly, I wouldn't have figured horrible LEster Maddox clones who used to make fun of themselves but got tired of it are not welcome here. Hell, even I haven't been banned.

There's hope for you yet.

Heh.  I didn't expect any class from you, and I was of course not disappointed.

I did, however, expect you to be called on mocking an apology from one member to another, and in this I was disappointed.  However, it at least shows me where I stand, and I guess I have you to thank for that.  So thanks.  Also, die of cancer.

But before you do, make sure to spread loads of your "wisdom" around, because that apparently is what is in demand. 
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Freeky

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 30, 2012, 06:37:19 PM
Quote from: holist on November 30, 2012, 05:11:25 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 30, 2012, 04:45:34 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on November 30, 2012, 04:38:58 PM
People are in a weird mood.  You're bound to see some sore nerves.  Doesn't mean everyone wants you to leave.

I never said anyone did.  I said "I don't think I belong here anymore".  I think I've become the person I always used to make fun of.  Some horrible Lester Maddox clone.  That's not Discordia.

WOW, you seem to have done the unexpected. And there was stupid me thinking I had you figured.

Well first of all, take deep breaths, it will pass.

Secondly, I wouldn't have figured horrible LEster Maddox clones who used to make fun of themselves but got tired of it are not welcome here. Hell, even I haven't been banned.

There's hope for you yet.

Heh.  I didn't expect any class from you, and I was of course not disappointed.

I did, however, expect you to be called on mocking an apology from one member to another, and in this I was disappointed.  However, it at least shows me where I stand, and I guess I have you to thank for that.  So thanks.  Also, die of cancer.

But before you do, make sure to spread loads of your "wisdom" around, because that apparently is what is in demand.

Unfair.  Holist is getting reamed for other things he said before this (I assume this was a newer post, I personally have him on ignore).

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on November 30, 2012, 06:47:44 PM
Unfair.

Probably.

So is sticking up for folks, and then being left swaying in the breeze.

May I suggest a hat?  I'm wearing one.  It's made out of impact-resistant plastic.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Nephew Twiddleton

Strange and Terrible Organ Laminator of Yesterday's Heavy Scene
Sentence or sentence fragment pending

Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS