On the role of experts in creating personal belief systems.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Yep.

I think it is probably more of a function of the type of person who would tend to get into such a field. 

But the talent and temperament seem hardwired, it's not something you pick.

THIS THIS THIS.  And there's nothing more annoying than the people who fake it.  Hipsters, neo-hippies, Pagan "artistes", and ALMOST EVERY SINGLE PERSON on Deviantart.

Yeah, but they put out. Don't discourage them.

Have you SEEN these people?  Nigel, you are the kind of person who can get damn near anyone you want.  Why would you want 400 pound people wearing trip pants?

Ewwwwwwww no!

Our local poseurs are at least ATTRACTIVE.

Oh, well then.  Burn 'em up like cheap firewood.   

I'm cleaning up this city, one hipster artiste at a time.

THE HIGHWAY'S FULL OF BROKEN HIPSTERS ON A LAST CHANCE POWER DRIVE

This needs to be a song.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Yep.

I think it is probably more of a function of the type of person who would tend to get into such a field. 

But the talent and temperament seem hardwired, it's not something you pick.

THIS THIS THIS.  And there's nothing more annoying than the people who fake it.  Hipsters, neo-hippies, Pagan "artistes", and ALMOST EVERY SINGLE PERSON on Deviantart.

Yeah, but they put out. Don't discourage them.

Have you SEEN these people?  Nigel, you are the kind of person who can get damn near anyone you want.  Why would you want 400 pound people wearing trip pants?

Ewwwwwwww no!

Our local poseurs are at least ATTRACTIVE.

Oh, well then.  Burn 'em up like cheap firewood.   

I'm cleaning up this city, one hipster artiste at a time.

THE HIGHWAY'S FULL OF BROKEN HIPSTERS ON A LAST CHANCE POWER DRIVE

[hirley0]

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/sections/mrsa-superbug/

[hirley0]

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I know, I'm just being grumpy and flippant because it's been a year. Stupid Geology.

Rocks aren't even really a science, not true
those ROCKS {throwing size) West of Neuberger ARE placed
there by the Mexicans ! with purpose intent & PLAN'n

But seriously, at this point there's no way of knowing whether the type of person who's into arts is more sexual, or whether getting into arts makes you more sexual.
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My professional blog: http://trichopterology.blogspot.com/
yeah ? yeah: eXpect me to show up soon in your sweatY night Mayor

[hirley0]

daffINatLi

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[hirley0]

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Kai" Burington said...     SoundingtheSea -
    You're right, it's not even about the payment. The differentiation is about the superiority of academics over non-academics simply because they are, rather than by knowledge or skill. And often not by any conscious intent. March 21, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Kai" Burington said...  TGIQ -
    Would that I could erase the lines overnight, and never hear another person say "pro-am".    March 21, 2012 at 2:46 PM

[hirley0]

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[hirley0]

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[hirley0]

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the length of the blue arrows | translate to German & VietNamEz see P^
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for patenting NEW WORDs to describe ?bug parts
could be applied to words used in descriptions of objects
even smaller than bugs | the diagrams of the G_cat come to mind
However my goal is words that would apply for example to the
antenna of the electron .  . .
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[hirley0]

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[hirley0]

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[Doktor Howl]

Here's where the initial (OP) argument first breaks down for me: "For each, the entirety of knowledge, as I described it, was passed down from people... they considered experts."  Sure, as he described it.  But that description is highly removed from reality. 

The second break is, "Each can generate reasonably consistent descriptions of themselves, their world, and the universe."  Except they can't.  They can generate descriptions that other people may accept, but it's the same thing as Elizer's "Phlogiston" argument.

The third is, "Neither Mary nor Joe learned about their world through direct experience."  Again, this is fundamentally not true. 

Thing is, everyone has beliefs.  Everyone.  And when dealing with things that are unverifiable, there cannot be "experts" (sorry to preachers of all religions and Pagan Elders everywhere, but that's the way it is).  This is ESPECIALLY true when it comes to religion.

And anyone who CLAIMS to be an expert on unverifiable things is therefore a BULLSHIT ARTIST.  This is sometimes readily apparent (any history channel show on "ancient astronauts", for example), and sometimes not so apparent. 

The acid test is this:

1.  Are the claims verifiable given current technology?

2.  Does the person espousing the claims claim to be an authority on the matter?

If the first answer is no and the second answer is yes, then the person in question is a bullshitter, no matter what they're selling (including atheism).  Except genuine Holy Men™, who have a special dispensation on account of we STATE that we're bullshitting, but that bullshit is divinely inspired, so shut up.

If the first answer is yes and the second answer is yes, check the person's credentials.

If the first answer is no and the second answer is no, you're talking to someone in a bar.

If the first answer is yes and the second answer is no, congratulations, you're talking to the only honest man you know.

Bump.

[LMNO]

Yes. Perhaps a rewrite can make it into the Bitter Tea project?

[Doktor Howl]

Yes. Perhaps a rewrite can make it into the Bitter Tea project?

Yep.  It's one of the things I plan to submit, alongside Objections I & II.

Also, something new.

[Doktor Howl]

daffINatLi

I think this is the only time I've ever seen Hirley0 slam someone.